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Originally Posted by HeelToeShift
Max has the most legendary karting career ever seen and every great out there said he was a century level talent. Again, Nikki Lauda said this while working for MB but never said anything even half that good about Ham? Why? It is wasn't for massive hp advantage MB enjore for 8 years Ham would only have 1 cheat WDC under his belt. Imagine if Ham didnt have a 'Max cant drive here because I'm afraid of losing to him' clause?
How in the world did Ham lose to a less than avg driver in Ros?
None of those other guys were even on the F1 radar at 17 like Max, and there's a lot of reasons why.
Sorry but there is a lot of delusion if you think Max isnt a much more special talent than anyone in F1. I can guarantee no one would have been able to learn as quickly or do what he has at this age in what equates to a solid car but no one that has any dominant trait other than the driver. You don't set records like he has without massive amounts of talent and a level of consistency F1 has never seen before from any of the greats before him in Clark, Prost, Fangio, Mansel, Senna, or Sch. He is the single best since Sch by a country mile.
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No one is denying that Hamilton won most of his championships because of a car performance advantage.
Did you watch the season where Rosberg won the championship? I'm guessing not, otherwise you wouldn't come out with such nonsense.
LOL you seriously believe the joke that Hamilton had a "no Verstappen" clause...brilliant.
When Verstappen was blabbing on about how he could win in the Mercedes Wolff offered him a test drive session to see how he would fare against Hamilton.
Verstappen of course bottled it, never replied and kept quiet after that.
If anyone has a clause like that in his contract it would be Verstappen...why else is Perez still there...its not because he is fast, he isn't...its because he is no threat to Verstappen taking wins.
If Verstappen was as good as you believe he would welcome any of the top drivers to join him at Red Bull to show he really is the best...but Verstappen at least understands that he would likely be shown up as decent but not special.
It is true, put Verstappen in a dominant car, set up to his preferences and with a second rate team mate he can indeed win races.
However up against Ricciardo he couldn't match him.
I don't think 3 years to get the hang of not over driving and crashing everywhere is someone who learns quickly...quite the opposite.
I do hope he ends up at Mercedes alongside Russell on equal terms then we will get a better idea of where Verstappen is in the hierarchy of drivers.