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      02-09-2025, 02:41 PM   #10256
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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh View Post
I think a lot of the market bases buying decisions around cost savings. The Camry is the best-selling ICEV sedan in the US. Toyota routinely sells between 280,000 to 300,000 units a year. The Model 3 is Tesla's best-selling EV sedan, so again, from a market perspective, the two vehicles are comparable. Both cars are classified as mid-size and are within 3 cubic-feet of each other in passenger volume. An economic evaluation of both cars is part of that comparison.

I'd buy an EV if (a) it didn't have a big TV stuck on the dash, (b) made economic sense, and (c) was easy to operate on extended drives beyond its battery range. Outside of Tesla, EV are just too difficult to deal with regarding refueling beyond their battery range. ICEV can recharge in 5 minutes, and cars like the Camry have a 400+ mile tank range. ICEV can be recharged practically anywhere in the US. Since 2013, I've been looking at EV as a replacement for my 2006 E90 that now has 426,000 miles on it. I haven't yet found an EV that is better than my well-used E90. I'm not going to sit around for 40 minutes in the winter to recover 200 miles of range, that is just stupid, especially when EV cost just as much to fuel on the road as an ICEV.
And this is why I don't buy vehicles based on sales numbers and cubic feet data and other nonsensical metrics. Having actually driven many Model 3s and several lower trim Toyotas (maybe not an LE Camry specifically) I know for a fact, regardless of any online cubic feet measurements or sales numbers or what random people on the internet say, they are completely different vehicles. Not even close in actual real world driving and ownership experience. It's like arguing that vanilla is better than chocolate because vanilla is being sold for less and they are both basically milk and sugar.

As for the second part of your post, I already said many many times it's pretty clear an EV isn't for you. Not sure why you feel the need to justify your choice of not getting an EV in half your posts. Unlike some people around here... I don't care what you drive. Drive a truck or a corolla or an EV or a 426k mile E90. Doesn't matter to me.
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