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      09-12-2021, 08:30 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by ///AVM View Post
The S58 is so damn good. . . why wouldn't they?

BMW just tunes it to series-appropriate torque/hp . . . and make it impossible to break ECU. If you want 'more,' then jump up a notch in the BMW model lineup.

I have stated my view that the G87 is going to be a spectacular encore to the F87C only about 100x. . . still, not considering giving up my G80C at this point for a detuned S58 in the G87.

From what I understand, the B58 is also a fantastic engine. . . and I'm sure it works great in the 230i. Maybe akin to a 'gateway drug' to get people into their ///M car lineup?



///AVM
That's exactly my point !!
BMW has couple engines and couple platforms so they extend the platform and play with HP/TQ to produce cars
Just think about it how many BMW model we have ? 40-50 right?
How many engines BMW is producing? and for how long?
BMW is saving big money in design section by reproducing the same engine over and over and then the result?
Let me tell you. Since 2011 I have had several cars with the same 4.4L - V8 N63/S63 engines. Actually it's more than 10 years they have introduced this engine which was one of the best engines back in 2010 with no doubt but then every couple years they just changed some components and played with software so N63 instead of 400 HP now has 533 HP and S63 instead of 550 HP now has 625 HP (M5 CS) and guess what? Today Mercedes with 4L V8 is producing over 650 HP while 10 years ago they even didn't have a V8 turbo charger engine at this league...

When I drive my 2020 M8 and compare the power/acceleration/torque under neath my foot and even sounds , with my 2013 M6, I dont feel a big difference between them! Yes M8 is quicker in 0-60 because is AWD and have a new "engine map" to produce 50 more TQ/HP but it's the same S63 engine which was even 3 years old in 2013
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