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Originally Posted by akkando
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Originally Posted by BobHen
Give me a break.
The "non" M2 destroyed the M2 to 60mph. I mean it wasn't even close. And it also bested the M2 by a good margin in the roll. And the M2 owner then says the M2 puts a smile on his face – well he wasn't smiling after those two races was he? He even says, "come on BMW why are you making non-M cars with that much power!" You'll notice the M240i driver is smiling ear-to-ear. Did the weight matter in those races? Embarrassing is right.
I test-drove an M240i on suburban Philadelphia roads (which are never the best here in the northeast) with the suspension in comfort and everything else in sport and it was fine. I thought the ride quality was as good or better than my 330i with a fixed suspension and it never felt the least bit "jittery". The term "jittery" never once entered my mind. As a matter of fact, it felt pretty darn good. The M240i was surprisingly easy to drive: power of course, brakes good and easy to modulate, steering sharp and tight and ride quality sporty as expected but fine over suburban roads and the seats are very comfortable. Bring that fixed suspension M2 down here on these roads and we'll see just how "jittery" that car is. No other reviewer has mentioned a jittery ride.
And no one is buying an M240i with the expectation of putting 2 adults in the back and driving long distances, any more than they would with a Mustang GT; kid-less adults or families with multiple cars are the demographic.
To me, the review (or more rightly the "comparison") sounded like they were looking for things that made the M2 the better choice, maybe because one of the reviewers just bought one. If it just comes down to the M2 having more backseat room and less weight, I'll stick with the M240i all day long.
All IMO of course – just like their "review".
Bob
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He put his own fucking money on the old m2, what else could he possibly do to convince others that he actually prefers the m2 to the latest m240 xdrive? It's no shock to anyone the xdrive beats a rwd MT car to 60 especially in cold weather. It probably beats the MT m3 to 60 in that same weather too. |
M240i is a nice car but it's not what purists want in a "track" car. I'm sure it's a better daily and more competent in many ways. Comparing 0-60's is irrelevant because xdrive cars will win by miles. As far as the rolling race, the B58 is a monster of an engine. I'm not shocked either. A comp M2 would've been the better rolling race since the power levels would be identical.
He bought the M2 because he wants a car to drive on the track. 0-60 and launches don't matter once you're rolling. Having less weight and better suspension is more important. Plus I'm sure people love drifting the M2 and I believe the M240i is still a great car to track. It shouldn't be off by much but the extra power and LSD it has helps.
As far as engines are concerned, it gets tricky. I think the B58 is a much more ideal track engine than the N55. It's a closed deck block with air to water cooling. It'll have less heat soak and more long term reliability and track reliability.
OG M2 wins in looks, suspension, lap times (assumption), less weight (400lbs), brakes?, option for manual transmission/RWD for drifts
M240i xdrive wins in comfort, engine (reliability and power), launching, tuning potential, luxury, and 8 speed ZF (I prefer to the DCT). To me it seems like the perfect sized car as well. I'd prefer the extra bulk for the daily driving.
Two great cars that are made for two different reasons. They both win in their respective areas