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      01-07-2022, 09:16 AM   #56
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The anger over shitty steering is misdirected at BMW when it should be directed at lazy drivers that have zero interest in, well, driving.
As Germanauto noted, that is not an excuse for BMW. Other OEMs offer much better steering feel while serving the mainstream public that doesn't care.

I understand why BMW thinks no steering feel is fitting for an X5 or even a base 5-series, but do they really think an M240i or M car buyer is turned off by steering feel? Only CS models have good steering.

I love the CS models, but they've become an excuse to make subpar M cars. They made the conscious decisions to limit what made BMW famous (steering, suspension tuning) to very expensive, limited production run cars.
Of course it's a good excuse. BMW exists to make money for its shareholders. In order to maximize sales, and therefore profits, they listened to what their mainstream buyers wanted. Why would a business give customers something they don't want?

BMW has not been an enthusiast brand for a long time, so the expectation that they cater to what we on the forum value is only going to lead to disappointment.

That said, I would agree there should at least be better EPS in the M cars. No excuse there. I love my OG M2, and I don't find the steering to be terrible like my F30. It's very precise, But it's still lacking in the weight and feel I used to enjoy. When I drove my neighbors 135i this past summer, it certainly made me wish the M2 had its steeering feel. Hell, I've even found myself longing for my old e90 just to get a taste of the old hydraulic rack from time to time…to the point I've been poking around the used car market for one.
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