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Is a project E90 N55 xDrive MT for high HP dumb?
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Yesterday, 10:42 AM | #1 |
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Is a project E90 N55 xDrive MT for high HP dumb?
Hello all, I will try to make this short.
I was looking to get a project E90 N55 to build the engine and put a large single turbo to be within the realm of 600-800 hp still unsure. I live in Canada, so I don't buy stuff that isn't xDrive, anyways now with xDelete I can switch from AWD to RWD, but that is besides the point. I found, for a great price, a 335i xDrive with a manual transmission and am keen on getting this for the build since so far I have only owned automatic N55s. The problem is I have read a lot and the synchronizer gears (for gear 2 and 3 usually) in the N55 manual transmission sustain too much load, and especially on AWD models, and go bad. Since I will have the engine and transmission out to do a complete rebuild, I was thinking if there was a way to upgrade these synchronizers to something that can withstand the power band I will try to achieve. I also seen some people switching to a N54 manual transmission that don't seem to have the same synchronizer issue. Or should I just drop the whole idea?
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Yesterday, 10:56 AM | #2 |
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N55 are solid they can hold quite a lot of power.
Mine is stock (has a jb+), but 170k km, and I put 0$ on it, all OEM. Still running good. - crank bolt capture kit - upgraded rod bearing and you're good to go. On FB market there a lot of N55 equipped BMWs with non running engine, mainly rod bearings, so do all the critical item on it, since it's hard and expensive find a N55 in shape to replace it. For the transmission, I would try, Ive change my busted transmission and it wasnt that hard and not that expensive, I wouldnt drop the project for that. Use good oil, like redline MTL and a magnetic plug. Get a nice shifter to avoid money shifts or grinding. |
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Yesterday, 11:08 AM | #3 | |
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It's more the manual transmission that is uncharted territory for me, so I appreciate the input!
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Yesterday, 12:14 PM | #4 |
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they said the same for the 340xi 6mt, and some doing huge power on it.
Maybe try to get a tune boost-per-gear or at least boost-per-rpm. Avoid launch control. And have fun on roll pulls and anti-lag pull. |
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Yesterday, 04:44 PM | #5 |
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Fair enough, I will take this into consideration! I am most likely being over-cautious but can't change how I think... in the end it's a project
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Yesterday, 06:39 PM | #7 |
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yes, definitely replace the rod bearings at 100kmiles, they are not that difficult (or expensive) to do when doing the oil pan. Nobody can tell for sure what's causing them to sometimes wear out very quickly even on stock cars, likely there're many reasons.
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The oil pan gasket was replaced 10k miles ago by the previous owner so I couldn't have done it then. Have you actually owned a car with the n55? I'm asking because from what I've seen, this topic is VERY controversial and everybody has a different opinion about it so I only want the opinion of someone who has owned a n55. I feel like this issue is almost as controversial as the discussion of whether the N54 is horribly unreliable or not.
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The fact that I didn't put my 2011 335i into my profile or signature doesn't mean I haven't had it for 2 years. I replaced the oil pan gasket and rod bearings first thing when I got it with 108 kmiles. Bearings weren't the worst, but definitely had some wear. Car was stock before I got it.
That's your car, though, so it's up to you if you want to do it or not. I've seen 200+ kmile f10 535i's on fb market place which never had rod bearings done but managed to do all these miles, and I have seen 80kmile e90 335i's with rod knock. Almost like a lottery
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It's more common on N55 than N54 , but surely not has common like on S65. Local well respected VAG mech here (doing mainly high end cars), got a lot of N55 engine swap request lately and rod bearing replacement. He's buggin me to do mine asap as preventive. He did my N54 one at 65k miles, by prevention, since I was going for 600hp. However my N55 is on a Zf8, wife driven and cancelled the start-n-stop fuel saver aka rod bearing killer, and liquimoly every 8k km, so I dont ''Feel'' like doing this soon |
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