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      10-01-2023, 02:16 PM   #1
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Unhappy Bump steer. Steering issue

E90 330i 2006 (late 2005 build).

I've been having bump steer (steering on its own left or right when going through various road imperfections).
Put the car on the lift multiple times, inspected with my mechanic all front suspension parts ... Bottom & upper arms, tie rods are looking perfect. Absolutely 0 play, all joins with no cracks or anything.
I've replaced both upper control arms in the past as they were shot, done alignment with no success.

I'm in the dark. No clue what could be the issue.

My mechanic thinks it might be steering rack itself, although he isn't 100% sure.
Also, I do not have any other issues with steering (except its a bit heavy, but I think it's normal. Changed power steering reservoir and fluid recently).
Actually, at high speed (90+ miles/h) car isn't stable anymore. It feels like there's a little play. This is likely related.

Any ideas anyone? Any experiences?
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What are your alignment settings?
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What are your alignment settings?
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Hmmm. Those look good to me. What condition are your shocks in?
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Hmmm. Those look good to me. What condition are your shocks in?
Honestly I'm not 100% sure. My mechanic told me they're OK and no need to change, however I feel these are original ones.
You think they might have relation?
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That's a likely culprit. Those would be pretty old if they're still original.
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Honestly I'm not 100% sure. My mechanic told me they're OK and no need to change, however I feel these are original ones.
You think they might have relation?
I’ve had bump steer issues fixed with new shocks in the past. Another good way to tell is by looking at your bump stops. If they’re rotting/worn away, it’s a good indication that you’re due for new dampeners.
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2006 model year with 95k mile dampers? You'll likely benefit from new struts and shocks
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2006 model year with 95k mile dampers? You'll likely benefit from new struts and shocks
I'm not sure as I haven't seen any receipt from previous owners for new ones.
I guess it's time to inspect it properly myself.
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EDIT:
Replaced:
- Front wheels about 6 months ago (michelin pilot sport 4 zero pressure (run flats). Rears are same Bridgestone potenzas on about 4mm thread.
- Front & Rear Struts (Bilstein B4 M sport)
- Springs (Eibach Pro Kit)
- all associated parts when refreshing shocks (all mounts, bump stops etc. both ends)
- Inner & outer tie rods
- done four wheel alingment

Bumpsteer improved, however it's still there! What a bummer.
No other visible issue with any other suspention component.

What now? I feel like I've hit a wall.
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Man… I am in the EXACT same situation as you, as far as I can tell..

Biggest difference being I’m now on my third steering rack with no improvement. There’s a knocking sound from my steering wheel when moving it at idle that just doesn’t seem right, but the shop I took it to doesn’t think anything is wrong.

I’ve replaced steering shaft twice (both times Genuine), rack with used replacement, then remanufactured. I just can’t see how it could possibly be the rack in my case, but what do I know, ha.

Without making this needlessly long, I’ve replaced basically every part that could possibly cause an issue and yet the issue remains. Doesn’t feel stable at speed, and steers itself readily when the road isn’t perfect. Yet no components appear to be clearly failed (nor should they be at their age).

I have not replaced the steering column, but I have removed it to check for play and briefly swapped in a used replacement. No difference.

Something that is not intuitive or obvious has to be going on. I keep thinking that steering feel on centre just does not feel right, but am struggling to logic through what might be causing it. I’ve even checked out other peoples’ cars here in my city, but the challenge is that a simple test drive or poking around the engine bay doesn’t seem to be enough. (I don’t want to ask a stranger to let me bring tools to pull the airbox and check the steering shaft.)

New tires, alignments, etc… issue persists.

When I bench-tested the rack (both my original one which was probably perfectly fine, and the Bosch remanufactured) I noticed no play. The reman especially was nice and tight, and even the smallest movements at input translated into rack movement.

Let’s keep in touch. This one has been driving me nuts, and while I’m sorry to hear you’re experiencing it too, it’s nice to at least know there’s someone else out there!
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