[theomich]

i did search and came up with a lot of crap, Ok guys here go s, Summer is coming and alot of bragging rights are on the line, Need to tune and modify my 335 to be able to keep up with stock vettes and 1 modified mustang, Believe it or not last summer i kept up and actually beat a couple of them. Looking for the best tunes for the buck,last year i went sstt and it messed up my car with lag problems. this year thinking of going jb3 non run flats and what else guys any help would be appreciated.. thanks

[joec500]

You're going to get a lot of flack for not searching first...But here is some data for you start your search.

Dinan: Most expensive, but it's a FLASH no extra hardware, and they should support you if you need warranty work, so there is no real need to "hide" anything from the dealer.

Proceed: Next priciest, but used V3's can be had for $650. Probably one of the most advanced piggybacks (from data I have read) as it controls the most parameters when compared to other piggybacks on the market. I personally own this one, so I am a bit biased, but some the latest developments on this platform are pretty impressive, like the tq targeting, throttle modulation and many more

Juicebox3: Simple affordable elegant design, but when you want to update the unit you need to order a chip, where the PROceed you can download the updates and load them in real time. I have actually used this tune as well. Great tune, very linear in driver feel, deceptively fast and can be had new for around $600 for the plug and play.

There are many more variants of the above as well as from other manufacturers, but the above seem the most used on this board or at least discussed.

Good luck....And invest in some stick tires or else you won't be able to put all that power down, during your stop light drag races...


Be Safe.

P.S. Where is the best Poutine in Quebec?

[Terrance28]

For the price the jb3 can't be beat, especially with the new 1.22 chip available.

[cn555ic]

the best tune will be the one that you choose, simple as that

[1cleanm6]

the best for you might not be the best for someone else..

however different tunes for different people....

v3 very verstile...

jb3 more of a plug n play setup not as advanced.

[JDLM]

:s igh:

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

For the price the jb3 can't be beat, especially with the new 1.22 chip available.

That is assuming that someone's first priority is cost and not functionality/performance. Obviously, this will vary from person to person. But I think Joec500 summed it up well.

Shiv

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

the best tune will be the one that you choose, simple as that

Well said

[Septro]

Good summary JoeC.

As for OP - you have good choices and it really depends on your preference. If your purchase priorities are warranty and near-dealer like service, go DINAN. If you are the type to tinker and want to know exactly what your car is doing with datalogging and map customization - go PROCEDE. If you want lower cost and map switching, go JB3.

Keep in mind that the DINAN tune is more conservative performance-wise than the others so if it's monster power you want and will mod the heck out of your car - you should stick with PROCEDE or JB.

Don't ask which is better - otherwise you'll get flamed. State what your preferences are and you might get a more pointed response.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Septro

Good summary JoeC.

As for OP - you have good choices and it really depends on your preference. If your purchase priorities are warranty and near-dealer like service, go DINAN. If you are the type to tinker and want to know exactly what your car is doing with datalogging and map customization - go PROCEDE. If you want lower cost and map switching, go JB3.

Keep in mind that the DINAN tune is more conservative performance-wise than the others so if it's monster power you want and will mod the heck out of your car - you should stick with PROCEDE or JB.

Don't ask which is better - otherwise you'll get flamed. State what your preferences are and you might get a more pointed response.

FWIW, the ability to "tinker" isn't the strength of the PROcede. Its strength is that it actually controls what needs to be controlled and, along the way, has also solved the issue with unintended throttle closure. The tinkering, datalogging and software update-ability is just an extra bonus. But there clearly is a place in the market for all tunes, regardless of what they do and don't do. It's just important to accept that everyone has different priorities and criteria when choosing tunes, clothes, food, etc,.

my 2c,
shiv

[1cleanm6]

If i wanted to change stuf around and be fully in control of the tune and its capabilities i would say the v3 is the best tune...

if i jus wanted to put something in and not worry about updated and stuff too much i would say jb3....

so see which floats your boat...

they are boat extremely good tunes..

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by Boosted335

if i jus wanted to put something in and not worry about updated and stuff too much i would say jb3....

Well you can do the same with V3, AA Processor and the SSTT.... No one says you have to do updates. We're just lucky to have tuners that are constantly working on the tunes to make them better. But if you just want a tune to install and never touch again, I'd suggest the SSTT or AA Processor, neither of them have had updates in ages.

[ezatnova]

Shark Edit!!!





Sorry...I had to, given that this is the 10,535 thread asking what tune to get.

[joec500]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

Shark Edit!!!





Sorry...I had to, given that this is the 10,535 thread asking what tune to get.

HAHAHAAHAHA, and I want to meet a Sasquatch, and take a picture with the lochness monster...OH I hear it's unicorn season in too!!!!

[RiXst3r]

Maybe my review will help...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188596

Its from a few months ago, but my opinion still stands the same, actually... I like the v3 even more now that I have had it for a while

[mmmotornutz]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Maybe my review will help...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188596

Its from a few months ago, but my opinion still stands the same, actually... I like the v3 even more now that I have had it for a while

That review of yours is kind of outdated since it looks like you had JB3 1.1 during that time. 1.22 is so much better than 1.1 and 1.0.


To the OP: Both tunes perform similarly. It just depends on what type of person you are. One who likes to fiddle or one who don't.

[tomtom]

comes down to price and service.
both products produce similar gains with some difference in technology and tuning methods. both end users post good reviews. i don't think V3 RevII is out yet however...but may be wrong.

jb3 pnp $629, pinout $379 vs V3 revII $950.
pnp is about $300 difference but jb3 pinout to V3 pnp is almost $600 difference....which may matter to you or not.
by far the JB3 is best bang for buck! and Terry is a great guy and is always ready to help out!

I have the JB3 and really enjoy how it performs. never tried V3 but I imagine it feels just as good to drive.

do some research on here and try one...you will be lucky to be getting the latest and greatest tunes/maps developed!

[Septro]

Yes but the pinout version while cheap - you have to be honest that you should be prepared to pull individual wires in/out everytime you need to install/remove your tune for service. While it gets easier the more times you do it - the money for PNP in both tunes is well worth the price increase IMO.

Plus - it wouldn't take much for an SA or BMW to look at the ECU connectors and wire leads to see if it was tampered with (scratches come easy with pinout). Just something to think about as a benefit of PNP.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by tomtom

comes down to price and service.
both products produce similar gains with some difference in technology and tuning methods. both end users post good reviews. i don't think V3 RevII is out yet however...but may be wrong.

jb3 pnp $629, pinout $379 vs V3 revII $950.
pnp is about $300 difference but jb3 pinout to V3 pnp is almost $600 difference....which may matter to you or not.
by far the JB3 is best bang for buck! and Terry is a great guy and is always ready to help out!

I have the JB3 and really enjoy how it performs. never tried V3 but I imagine it feels just as good to drive.

do some research on here and try one...you will be lucky to be getting the latest and greatest tunes/maps developed!

Just a little correction... Rev.II has been out for a month now. And it drives nothing like the JB3. You will not confuse them in a blind test. And for sure, go with PnP harness regardless of what tune you get. Pin out is sooo 2006

Shiv

[tomtom]

Originally Posted by Septro

Yes but the pinout version while cheap - you have to be honest that you should be prepared to pull individual wires in/out everytime you need to install/remove your tune for service. While it gets easier the more times you do it - the money for PNP in both tunes is well worth the price increase IMO.

Plus - it wouldn't take much for an SA or BMW to look at the ECU connectors and wire leads to see if it was tampered with (scratches come easy with pinout). Just something to think about as a benefit of PNP.

i must admit the PnP does sound like a breeze. but the pinout is not that bad. i've removed one...and no residue or damage. just use a swiss army pocket scissor and just be patient.

[tomtom]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Just a little correction... Rev.II has been out for a month now. And it drives nothing like the JB3. You will not confuse them in a blind test. And for sure, go with PnP harness regardless of what tune you get. Pin out is sooo 2006

Shiv

well maybe someone local will have one for that test...albeit not blind, it will still be interesting nonetheless.
maybe do a couple of runs too!

[mmmotornutz]

Originally Posted by Septro

Yes but the pinout version while cheap - you have to be honest that you should be prepared to pull individual wires in/out everytime you need to install/remove your tune for service. While it gets easier the more times you do it - the money for PNP in both tunes is well worth the price increase IMO.

Plus - it wouldn't take much for an SA or BMW to look at the ECU connectors and wire leads to see if it was tampered with (scratches come easy with pinout). Just something to think about as a benefit of PNP.

An SA or Tech can easily speculate if the ecu has been tampered with just by seeing how loose the air temp sensor clamps are especially with a car that has low miles. Brand new they are tough to get out. The more you take them out the easier they come out.

Having the right tools will not scratch the subconnectors.