glad I chose the 335, look at this lexus vid!

pc4400 · 02-12-2010, 01:43 AM

Wow, I'll take a HPFP issue over this problem any day!

http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w...edSteering.flv

Just thought I'd share

Dan in PA · 02-12-2010, 01:46 AM

DAMN! Possessed for sure...

...I burst out laughing.

07E92TT · 02-12-2010, 01:47 AM

lol damn thats crazy, i almost got an is350 too...bmw has its share of problems but this is just crazy!

PLAY · 02-12-2010, 01:47 AM

LOL, what the crap?

f=ma · 02-12-2010, 01:53 AM

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-s...ering-out.html

UPDATE 02/11/10

SERIES OF EVENTS:

1.) P/S went out. (at the precise moment I enter a parking garage in the daytime with the lights set to auto mode and they engage)

2.) Dealership replaces Power Steering ECU

3.) 2 Weeks later I start the car before leaving work (with lights set to auto mode) and as soon as I touch the steering wheel it begins to shake rapidly as if possessed. (SEE VIDEO in post #8)

4.) Give dealership the video with the car they try to replicate the problem. Two weeks later after failing to re-create the problem, corporate tells them to replace the steering rack assembly just as they did 6 months earlier for the TSIB because they simply do not have any idea what caused the steering wheel to shake.

MY CONCLUSION:

After doing some research here on CL, I've found and talked to a couple other members who have had the same problems, and both of which also had aftermarket HID systems.

Member #1
This member had their ECU "go out" (as mine did) and actually had their dealership in Florida conclude that his HID Ballast was mounted too close to the power steering ECU, and thus "fried" his P/S ECU.

Member #2
This member had their steering wheel violently shake (as mine did) when they started the car at night with the lights set to auto mode.

It's been almost two months since I got my car back and I have had no P/S issues.
However I have not set the lights to Auto mode since, and though I can't prove it, I truly believe that sometimes when the auto lights go on, the ballast freaks out the system OR vise versa.

I personally followed Muzzman1'S write-up about how to install and HID kit, and if you check out that thread, you can see where I mounted each ballast.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-s...-pictures.html

I plan to relocate both ballasts in the spring by extending the wires to keep both of them as far away from any ECU or Fuse box type devices as possible.

VTECaddict · 02-12-2010, 01:53 AM

WTF?!? LOL

pc4400 · 02-12-2010, 01:53 AM

I read that Lexus blamed it on aftermarket HIDs being installed

Craig@SupremePower · 02-12-2010, 02:02 AM

yikes!

NiVeDh · 02-12-2010, 02:08 AM

Oh my...

bsamoul · 02-12-2010, 02:22 AM

next up: the lexus steering wheel jackhammer recall

Dan in PA · 02-12-2010, 03:04 AM

^ The Asian brands are killing it lately...

Blacksapphiref06 · 02-12-2010, 03:59 AM

lol.. glad i've sold my lexus

EZ_TUR90 · 02-12-2010, 04:45 AM

My sisters is250s rack and pinion went out the first day she purchased the car lol

2kaccordocoupe · 02-12-2010, 05:00 AM

Just goes to show that every car company has it's quirks.
The separating factor is how well they deal with them...

Potty_Pants · 02-12-2010, 07:13 AM

GUYS WTF...

am i missing something or do you not read ?

it was strongly suspected by the owner the AFTERMARKET HID lights were the cause.

The problem has been duplicated on other cars with AFTERMARKET HID lights.

The dealer stated the steering problem was caused by the AFTERMARKET HID lights.

Bottom line ITS NOT THE MANUFACTURES FAULT.

It possible for those not familar with high voltage emissions to not see the connection.
High voltage is very easy to jump from source to anything close enough, if it's a person or another piece of metal (this is with poor insulation proceedures). please do a search for tesla and read how things need to be insulated,shielded , or just plain distanced from the EMF. simple explaination = like speakers ... they dont touch the floppy disk but can wipe the data. please tell me you know what a floppy disk is

Hey if i try to replace my spark plugs and cross thread them and fuck it up big time... if i go to the dealer i DONT expect them to pay for my botched job. And i sure as hell aint going to blame the manufacturer or dealer for said problem.

put it in perspective guys, this has nothing to do with toyota/lexus quality.

ppp

jlstyle · 02-12-2010, 07:14 AM

WTF that's freaky as hell.

BMWs4ever · 02-12-2010, 08:26 AM

What a piece of crap! I don't care if the aftermarket lights caused it. It's still crap in my mind. What happens if he puts aftermarket tires on will the same thing happen or better yet will the car break in two :-)

That's why I wouldn't buy Lexas (over priced Toyota)

stevenqdz · 02-12-2010, 08:43 AM

holy sh!t Thats new kind of problem

Delta0311 · 02-12-2010, 08:45 AM

Well it is a Toyota after all..

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