[SE3P_to_E90]

they are indeed the topnotch grey market...
even when their economy started opening up... it's problematic to us.

weren't they planning on dropping $1 trillion into the us market to flush the dollar? some time in january or so?

I agree w/ the lack of innovation... the key POINT in success is: innovate, not imitate!!

yet again, they haven't been doing poorly in imitating
i for one, think it's bullshit...

i guess we'll just have to let time take its toll

[SE3P_to_E90]

and is that BYD emblem (or whatever the fuck it is) for real?
if it is, it's absolute bullshit... and i'd walk up to it and piss on it... while the driver's in the car.

[RyBMW]

Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90

and is that BYD emblem (or whatever the fuck it is) for real?
if it is, it's absolute bullshit... and i'd walk up to it and piss on it... while the driver's in the car.

Do it!

[DasBlitz]

I think China needs to be put to new standards. This is why they flourish and are doing so well.

I love when many compare us to China. Ok if we were communist, inhumane and disregarded copyright laws then sure we would do good too.

Great minds are not allowed to flourish due to their suppressive government.

[SE3P_to_E90]

Originally Posted by DasBlitz

I think China needs to be put to new standards. This is why they flourish and are doing so well.

I love when many compare us to China. Ok if we were communist, inhumane and disregarded copyright laws then sure we would do good too.

Great minds are not allowed to flourish due to their suppressive government.

hence the millions of chinese in the US
regardless, copyright infringement (imo) is ok to an extent... when you're entire economy is based on it, we have a problem/annoyance/nuissance/frustration
the US isn't doing much to stop it either (e.g. ebay)

[elucas730]

Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90

and is that BYD emblem (or whatever the fuck it is) for real?

To see if it was, I checked the Wikipedia entry for BYD. I was greeted with this gem:

BYD Auto is an automobile manufacturer based in Shengzheng, China. The firm is China's largest mobil phone battery maker. in 2003, it bought a bankrupting government auto maker "Qingchuan" to acquire tightly controlled permission to make automobile in China. This method of permit aquairing is called "buy a shell" has since been banned.

It inherite one model called "Flyer" from Qingchuan, as of today(2007), Flyer only Sell less than 100 per month. It's first self designed model, F3, however, is very successful, selling over 10000 per month in first half of 2007.

In addition to F3, it also unveiled new models F3R, F6, F8, F1. But one thing distinguish this auto maker from all the others is in its pursuit of Electric Vehecle. it has unveiled F3e, which is the Electric version of its popular F3, claim to have a cruse range of 350 kilometers on a single charge. it plan to have Electric versions of all its models as well as plugin versions. in addition to EV, it also produce EV charge station, car betteries specifically designed for EV application.

[Agni]

One thing they aren't copying is the quality and safety...watch a Chinese car during a crash:

[SE3P_to_E90]

Originally Posted by elucas730

To see if it was, I checked the Wikipedia entry for BYD. I was greeted with this gem:

as soon as i got to mobile phone, i stopped reading... once again, if i ever see a BYD, i will urinate on it.

[Becksgold]

We respect Japanese, and Koreans... But please, Chinese can only make inferior copies.... Even US vehicle producers (Ford/GM) can't match European manufacturers like BMW/Mercedes/Audi on quality and refinement.....

[BK]

No doubt they will be covered with lead paint and their trunks will be filled with toxic toothpaste.

[ksfrogman]

It always amazes me how some people have blunted creativity, and would rather copy almost to a tee than to innovate. Guess this is what happens in a repressed society that does not cultivate individual freedoms.

[phazedkid]

Originally Posted by BK

No doubt they will be covered with lead paint and their trunks will be filled with toxic toothpaste.

LOL. as funny as that is... it's sad that it might actually be true. (about the lead paint. idk about toothpaste in the trunks though. )

[toofasttooslow]

The Chineese are slowly trying to poision the U.S. First it was their takeout food and the copious amounts of MSG, then it was the dog food, and now they're targetting our children.

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...,4702602.story

"The recall follows a series of scares this year involving harmful Chinese imports, from toothpaste to pet food."

Coincidence?