Installed BB Flash and car runs great

Lifted07Duramax · 10-22-2013, 08:57 PM

I don't have any logs yet but the car is running so much smoother and it feels like I picked up a good amount of power.
I can say this, when I put it in 2nd rolling at 30mph and I punch it the car breaks the tires loose and I can feel the rear end wanting to slide.
It never did this before when it was just the Cobb BMS Flash

Now its BB BMS Flash

badass335 · 10-22-2013, 11:01 PM

So is this a flash map designed by Terry or is this shiv's file readjusted?

Brule · 10-23-2013, 04:12 AM

Are you on pump or race, e85?

I haven't heard that BB bt cable bms pump flash had anything over pump flash via cobb.

I haven't purchased a cable yet because of this.

rdub315 · 10-23-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brule

Are you on pump or race, e85?

+1... I'm trying to figure out if it would benefit me, if I run straight 93 octane 75% of the time, and 4 gallons of E85 the other 25% of the time.

Lifted07Duramax · 10-23-2013, 10:30 AM

The race flash. You can swap over the flash anytime you want though. Ill try and get some logs today but I know its better than before

07tundra · 10-24-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rdub315

+1... I'm trying to figure out if it would benefit me, if I run straight 93 octane 75% of the time, and 4 gallons of E85 the other 25% of the time.

I first had the pump flash via bb flash and it felt better than the cobb e85 flash. I then flashed the race AT e85 mixture flash with 4 gal of e85 and holycow way better. Car feels free smooth no codes at all

90 seconds to reflash to a diff flash once you put the jb on map 0...lol

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-24-2013, 01:55 AM

It would have been interesting to see where the bump in power came from.

Are you sure it's just not the lower ambient temps making the car break loose and feel more powerful.

At the end of the day boost is boost and ignition is ignition.

Shadow007 · 10-24-2013, 02:17 AM

I just order me a bt cable last night. I'm trying to see whats all of the fuss about.

Lifted07Duramax · 10-24-2013, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

It would have been interesting to see where the bump in power came from.

Are you sure it's just not the lower ambient temps making the car break loose and feel more powerful.

At the end of the day boost is boost and ignition is ignition.

I have logs from the cobb bms flash right before taking it off. I haven't got logs yet with the new flash.
Yes Im positive its not the ambient temps, its never done this before even with very low ambient temps in the past

badass335 · 10-24-2013, 02:42 AM

So are you just running a flash or stacking jb4? Very curious to know?

HighPSI · 10-24-2013, 08:34 AM

I'm pretty sure the flash doesn't increase power but more along the lines of better fueling/timing/afr.

Lifted07Duramax · 10-24-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by badass335

So are you just running a flash or stacking jb4? Very curious to know?

Stacked with jb4

Tiago@VRSF · 10-24-2013, 10:47 AM

Running more aggressive timing and a streamlined AFR will generally produce a power bump. I'd love to see some before and after logs.

Lifted07Duramax · 10-24-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Running more aggressive timing and a streamlined AFR will generally produce a power bump. I'd love to see some before and after logs.

Should have some today

badass335 · 10-25-2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

Stacked with jb4

So what map are you running? This is the JB4 ISO PNP? What are you running for boost?

MasterWang · 11-14-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Running more aggressive timing and a streamlined AFR will generally produce a power bump. I'd love to see some before and after logs.

Before and after logs AND dyno runs would be nice to see. I don't think any exist.

2Times · 11-14-2013, 11:03 AM

I did the same with my JB4 via Cobb... super smooth. I actually do have an old log somewhere of just Cobb before going JB4 and I was getting throttle closures and post shift timing drops.

marc@x-ph.com · 11-14-2013, 11:22 AM

BB flash won;t yield any benefit over COBB because it is the BB flash but because it was probably more aggressive that the COBB backend that was given to you.

The variables that Terry modifies in the tables are available to change in both cases.

OP, not trying to say you didn't make power but I want to make it clear to everyone that the power bump you received was due to updates in the flash that could have equally been done in COBB.

I'm glad you are enjoying your car

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-14-2013, 11:26 AM

Post logs, would love to see them..

Mike

WedgePerformance · 11-21-2013, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc@x-ph.com

BB flash won;t yield any benefit over COBB because it is the BB flash but because it was probably more aggressive that the COBB backend that was given to you.

The variables that Terry modifies in the tables are available to change in both cases.

OP, not trying to say you didn't make power but I want to make it clear to everyone that the power bump you received was due to updates in the flash that could have equally been done in COBB.

I'm glad you are enjoying your car

haha, blah blah blah...

Put the PROcede back in the car today with my aggressive E85 flash, which I must say is running even stronger than the last time you was in the car. Should be interesting now with boost control.

WedgePerformance · 11-21-2013, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

I don't have any logs yet but the car is running so much smoother and it feels like I picked up a good amount of power.
I can say this, when I put it in 2nd rolling at 30mph and I punch it the car breaks the tires loose and I can feel the rear end wanting to slide.
It never did this before when it was just the Cobb BMS Flash

Now its BB BMS Flash

I'm so depressed, you didn't call me... Catch me tomorrow, might have something for you..

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Brule Brigadier General 841 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 6spd man Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Darwin iTrader: (0)	Are you on pump or race, e85? I haven't heard that BB bt cable bms pump flash had anything over pump flash via cobb. I haven't purchased a cable yet because of this.
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Lifted07Duramax Major 153 Rep 1,449 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW red 335i coupe Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: springfield, mo iTrader: (1)	The race flash. You can swap over the flash anytime you want though. Ill try and get some logs today but I know its better than before
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3472 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	It would have been interesting to see where the bump in power came from. Are you sure it's just not the lower ambient temps making the car break loose and feel more powerful. At the end of the day boost is boost and ignition is ignition.
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Shadow007 Captain 67 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 2009 335i coupe monaco blue Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: El Paso, TX iTrader: (2)	I just order me a bt cable last night. I'm trying to see whats all of the fuss about.
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HighPSI Banned 9 Rep 280 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I'm pretty sure the flash doesn't increase power but more along the lines of better fueling/timing/afr.
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