[C ///M]

Originally Posted by HighPSI

I'm wrong? OK well where is your facility located because on your website it doesn't state an address. Do you have pictures of your shop where you manufacture your parts and conduct the R&D. It seems odd that you would release an exhaust that has clearance issues and also doesn't reuse the Vbrace. Surely If you had your own facility you would've seen th issues on a test car.

For as long as I could remember your company was a reseller, not a manufacturer. It's OK if you use a 3rd party from China to make your parts. There's a reason why they are so cost effective, however please don't lie to the public and say you have in house engineers when really you work out of a home office/small warehouse.

Dude settle down. There's a polite way of having a conversation and you're being a jerk.

VRSF indeed has an in house engineer. How do you think they develop products? They do not manufacture mass product on site, neither do a few other n54 product developers but they certainly produce prototypes with in-house R&D.

It's challeging to produce perfect parts right off the bat. Every manufacturer on the planet implements revisions to both products and development methods. Every one.

Finally, do you own any VRSF products? Has Tiago wronged you in some way? Or are you just trolling? Show some respect to fellow board members, vendor or not. I don't believe Tiago has ever mislead anyone intentionally or otherwise. He has always answered every question I've ever had, very quickly and completely, but I also don't ask like a jerk and accuse some wrong doing without merit.

If he wasn't a quality vendor, he wouldn't have bothered creating a revision, let alone offering it for free to current owners.

Jesus, you just can't please some people....

[jasonX]

Originally Posted by HighPSI

I'm wrong? OK well where is your facility located because on your website it doesn't state an address. Do you have pictures of your shop where you manufacture your parts and conduct the R&D. It seems odd that you would release an exhaust that has clearance issues and also doesn't reuse the Vbrace. Surely If you had your own facility you would've seen th issues on a test car.

For as long as I could remember your company was a reseller, not a manufacturer. It's OK if you use a 3rd party from China to make your parts. There's a reason why they are so cost effective, however please don't lie to the public and say you have in house engineers when really you work out of a home office/small warehouse.

The AMS Exhaust which is only a 3 inch also doesn't utilize the V-Brace either and I believe several others don't as well.

[HighPSI]

Originally Posted by C ///M

Dude settle down. There's a polite way of having a conversation and you're being a jerk.

VRSF indeed has an in house engineer. How do you think they develop products? They do not manufacture mass product on site, neither do a few other n54 product developers but they certainly produce prototypes with in-house R&D.

It's challeging to produce perfect parts right off the bat. Every manufacturer on the planet implements revisions to both products and development methods. Every one.

Finally, do you own any VRSF products? Has Tiago wronged you in some way? Or are you just trolling? Show some respect to fellow board members, vendor or not. I don't believe Tiago has ever mislead anyone intentionally or otherwise. He has always answered every question I've ever had, very quickly and completely, but I also don't ask like a jerk and accuse some wrong doing without merit.

If he wasn't a quality vendor, he wouldn't have bothered creating a revision, let alone offering it for free to current owners.

Jesus, you just can't please some people....

Are you his lawyer??

Have you been to his facility? I didn't think so. So stop assuming. Vrsf doesn't manufacture or R&D anything. I don't have a problem with him but I don't like being lied to. He stated he has in house engineers when I know he doesn't. He doesn't manufacture anything. It's not hard to become a vendor here, make a website with NO ADDRESS (hence no shop, no facility, just a guy working from a warehouse/home), buy AR design downpipe and an ams exhaust and ship it to China asking them to replicate it and stamp VRSF on it. Then sell it to ppl on forums for a fraction of the cost that others are selling it for. I'm not trolling, I was having a discussion on exhausts and then he had to go and lie saying he has an in-house engineer. At least Terry from BMS is honest and says that his downpipe are made overseas. Don't lie to the public, end of story.

[HighPSI]

Listen if I'm wrong, then he should post pictures of his R&D facility and his shop that says VRSF on the sign. Surely he has that right? I know Vac motorsports does and so does AR Design.

[TurboSid]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

We're going to offer the replacement mid-pipes with better fitment free of charge to anyone who originally purchased our exhaust