Almost done with engine super service

tinnsoldaten · 03-27-2014, 02:26 PM

And Im as far as filling new coolant and start bleeding.

But it wont start ....

Key in , pressed start (no foot on break) heat max , fan min.... nada

I used to have a european style waterpump , 4 pins in a row
Now I use the VDO US style from ECS , with rebuilt connector.

Its wired just like on this photo I found in forum.

Ingeniator · 03-27-2014, 02:35 PM

Are you holding the gas down? I think it takes about 10-15 seconds. Is your battery fully charged/on a charger.

Edit: Also you need to make sure you press the start button until the car is in the "RUN" position lights on dash but not running.

MMMCOOKIES55 · 03-27-2014, 02:41 PM

-Key on, engine off, accessories on.
-Heat to 84, lowest fan speed.
-Hold down gas pedal for 15-20 seconds.
-You will hear the water pump initialize and start to pump fluid up to the coolant reservoir, if you are unsure or cannot hear it, you can always open up the coolant reservoir to see the fluid pumping up.

tinnsoldaten · 03-27-2014, 04:58 PM

Car has new battery , got unhooked from car last year , put it on charger for 4-6 h before I started with coding new injectors.

Cooding went like a dream with INPA , thanks vasillalov

I had a charger hooked up in engine bay , put key in and pushed start , without pressing brake and starting engine. Then heat on max and fan on min. Pressed the accelerator to the floor for 10-15 sec , and let off.

I will go try one more time , and keep the throttle pressed for 20 sec then let go , see if that changes anything.

My speculations are , does this different style water pump (VDO Continental US style) need some coding , to it or via car or module ?

Or are there some pins in socket that might need to be moved around?

I done the bleed procedure before without any problems.

tinnsoldaten · 03-27-2014, 06:19 PM

Wires to water pump :
Brown ----> goes to earth/ground
Red ------>Goes to Positive supply ( relay driven ?)
Purple ---------> Im guessing signal wire to control rpm
Orange---------> Im guessing signal wire to control rpm

What Im asking is pump should start with bleeding procedure activated , the thin wires is just for monitoring rpm ?

Will try a second time tomorrow morning , today its enough...

tinnsoldaten · 03-28-2014, 03:37 PM

Hahaha... I guess Im stressed out at the moment ...

Work much better when both temp dials are on full heat

Works like a charm now ...

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tinnsoldaten Captain 41 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	Almost done with engine super service And Im as far as filling new coolant and start bleeding. But it wont start .... Key in , pressed start (no foot on break) heat max , fan min.... nada I used to have a european style waterpump , 4 pins in a row Now I use the VDO US style from ECS , with rebuilt connector. Its wired just like on this photo I found in forum. Attached Images __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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Ingeniator Major 34 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 07 335XI(90) 09 135I(82) Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Fort Mac, Alberta iTrader: (1)	Are you holding the gas down? I think it takes about 10-15 seconds. Is your battery fully charged/on a charger. Edit: Also you need to make sure you press the start button until the car is in the "RUN" position lights on dash but not running. __________________ 07 335XI (A008006) 6AT ~94K miles JB4 G5 ISO VSRF DP's 09 135I M (VK80379) 6MT. Race Project car. 1) Install Cobb/piggyback? and Motiv 600 Kit[HTA3076R w/ tial .82] 2) JRZ or Moton suspension. 3) Build high flow intake manifold with multi-port fuel and relocate OFH 4) Build full cage 5) Complete staged twin setup with HTA4205R [w/Tial 1.16] 6) Complete dry sump system
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MMMCOOKIES55 Major 350 Rep 1,376 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP/ '16 ATS-V Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Apex, NC iTrader: (3)	-Key on, engine off, accessories on. -Heat to 84, lowest fan speed. -Hold down gas pedal for 15-20 seconds. -You will hear the water pump initialize and start to pump fluid up to the coolant reservoir, if you are unsure or cannot hear it, you can always open up the coolant reservoir to see the fluid pumping up.
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tinnsoldaten Captain 41 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	Car has new battery , got unhooked from car last year , put it on charger for 4-6 h before I started with coding new injectors. Cooding went like a dream with INPA , thanks vasillalov I had a charger hooked up in engine bay , put key in and pushed start , without pressing brake and starting engine. Then heat on max and fan on min. Pressed the accelerator to the floor for 10-15 sec , and let off. I will go try one more time , and keep the throttle pressed for 20 sec then let go , see if that changes anything. My speculations are , does this different style water pump (VDO Continental US style) need some coding , to it or via car or module ? Or are there some pins in socket that might need to be moved around? I done the bleed procedure before without any problems. __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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tinnsoldaten Captain 41 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	Wires to water pump : Brown ----> goes to earth/ground Red ------>Goes to Positive supply ( relay driven ?) Purple ---------> Im guessing signal wire to control rpm Orange---------> Im guessing signal wire to control rpm What Im asking is pump should start with bleeding procedure activated , the thin wires is just for monitoring rpm ? Will try a second time tomorrow morning , today its enough... __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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tinnsoldaten Captain 41 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	Hahaha... I guess Im stressed out at the moment ... Work much better when both temp dials are on full heat Works like a charm now ... __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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