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      10-11-2014, 02:07 AM   #23
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What's your meth flow? Your car doesn't sound like its really performing, with a sub 2.0 60' you should be able to crack into the 12s pretty easily. A good 60' is really the only involved part, the rest is autopilot.
My 13.433 at 104mph had a 1.8xx 60 ft.

I'm on boost juice, spraying 8gph nozzle at 150psi. It has a noticeable power gain when the meth sprays... Just solid and smooth torquey acceleration. I notice it, but not like NOS in the fast and furious movies or anything like that.

Maybe something is wrong with the car? I spent a summer "interning" with a USAC midget team after my tuned DSM's were turning up fastest times in their SCCA class and drag strips, and I have been into tuning turbo cars since 1996. Just so this isn't blamed on my novice experience as a driver or with a wrench. Then again, it's only my second diesel and my 2012 golf tdi only had a tune... Never wrenched on it at all. I did take the car in complaining of poor fuel economy in hopes of getting dealer paid cbu cleaning and received 6 new injectors, but maybe the cbu is indeed hurting me? My wheels are next to go- tears weigh 27.6lbs, so dropping to a 20-21lb wheel should help slightly, maybe .1 in the 1/4?
I actually have been disappointed in the times and performance myself, but I'm seeing others getting ugly times in their tuned 335d's and those threads don't get a lot of attention... I'm amused at a JBD alone taking a 335d into M3 or tuned 335i territory. Apparently it adds around 40-45whp at the most, unless u only read the BMS dyno. MachV and others have not seen the 80hp or whatever claims realized. It gets us closer, as does meth, but our gearing sucks due to our low revs and our cars are very heavy. We shouldn't fool ourselves into unrealistic times, though some have managed impressive times such as high 12's... Then again, very few have broken into the 12's, like 3 or 4 on the forums. And how many had a passenger seat removed and light wheels with sticky tires? In stock form our trap speeds aren't where the aforementioned cars trap speeds are with a JBD alone.
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U guys need a real tune not a plugin like jbd, as u seen i kill m6 and other "fast cars"
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      10-11-2014, 05:27 AM   #25
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But im selling my 335d, i had alot of fun but thinking of a R8, or just buy a apartment and try save som cash instead
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      10-11-2014, 07:22 AM   #26
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      10-13-2014, 04:57 PM   #27
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U guys need a real tune not a plugin like jbd, as u seen i kill m6 and other "fast cars"
Pffffft. You're running mid 11's huh
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      10-13-2014, 05:57 PM   #28
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Doesn't DR like 10s on streets?
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Doesn't DR like 10s on streets?
All jokes aside, I've seen DRs kill list and it's nothing to laugh at.
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Pffffft. You're running mid 11's huh
Diesel world is different in sweden

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034657
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Diesel world is different in sweden

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034657
I stand corrected! I need to finally figure out my bmwhat app gauges and see whats wrong with my car. I should be in the 325-350hp range I would think... it doesn't seem quite right that the car isn't pulling faster times. Maybe I'll start another thread once I have time. Too much going on.
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I stand corrected! I need to finally figure out my bmwhat app gauges and see whats wrong with my car. I should be in the 325-350hp range I would think... it doesn't seem quite right that the car isn't pulling faster times. Maybe I'll start another thread once I have time. Too much going on.
I also feel my D is kind of slow. It's a little better with JBD but not that impressive. I purchased bmwhat as well. So many settings not even sure where to start. Would be nice to know what to expect as far as optimal settings go in order to gauge if the car is running fine. If you or anyone else can share some basic settings to monitor that would be awesome (say like optimal temps, air, fuel...) . Maybe this needs needs to be a separate thread if there are a lot of things to monitor.
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I stand corrected! I need to finally figure out my bmwhat app gauges and see whats wrong with my car. I should be in the 325-350hp range I would think... it doesn't seem quite right that the car isn't pulling faster times. Maybe I'll start another thread once I have time. Too much going on.
325-350hp to the crank or wheels?
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325-350hp to the crank or wheels?
Crank most likely. He's on JBD.
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I stand corrected! I need to finally figure out my bmwhat app gauges and see whats wrong with my car. I should be in the 325-350hp range I would think... it doesn't seem quite right that the car isn't pulling faster times. Maybe I'll start another thread once I have time. Too much going on.
325-350hp to the crank or wheels?
Crank. I have JBD and meth 50/50. I wouldn't be surprised to have around 300-315whp, but just saying that in general it should be faster.
Then again "JBD adds 80hp!!!!!" Lol
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My 13.433 at 104mph had a 1.8xx 60 ft.

I'm on boost juice, spraying 8gph nozzle at 150psi. It has a noticeable power gain when the meth sprays... Just solid and smooth torquey acceleration. I notice it, but not like NOS in the fast and furious movies or anything like that.

Maybe something is wrong with the car? I spent a summer "interning" with a USAC midget team after my tuned DSM's were turning up fastest times in their SCCA class and drag strips, and I have been into tuning turbo cars since 1996. Just so this isn't blamed on my novice experience as a driver or with a wrench. Then again, it's only my second diesel and my 2012 golf tdi only had a tune... Never wrenched on it at all. I did take the car in complaining of poor fuel economy in hopes of getting dealer paid cbu cleaning and received 6 new injectors, but maybe the cbu is indeed hurting me? My wheels are next to go- tears weigh 27.6lbs, so dropping to a 20-21lb wheel should help slightly, maybe .1 in the 1/4?
I actually have been disappointed in the times and performance myself, but I'm seeing others getting ugly times in their tuned 335d's and those threads don't get a lot of attention... I'm amused at a JBD alone taking a 335d into M3 or tuned 335i territory. Apparently it adds around 40-45whp at the most, unless u only read the BMS dyno. MachV and others have not seen the 80hp or whatever claims realized. It gets us closer, as does meth, but our gearing sucks due to our low revs and our cars are very heavy. We shouldn't fool ourselves into unrealistic times, though some have managed impressive times such as high 12's... Then again, very few have broken into the 12's, like 3 or 4 on the forums. And how many had a passenger seat removed and light wheels with sticky tires? In stock form our trap speeds aren't where the aforementioned cars trap speeds are with a JBD alone.

I have run 13,1 @ 107 many time with just a JBD @ 100%
I think something is wrong with your car.
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I wonder if austin is quenching with his meth injection. One easy way to check would be to up the meth concentration to something like 75/25 for a test and see if you pick up a ton of speed. Does anyone know how you could check for quenching using logging software?
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I wonder if austin is quenching with his meth injection. One easy way to check would be to up the meth concentration to something like 75/25 for a test and see if you pick up a ton of speed. Does anyone know how you could check for quenching using logging software?
BUMP

My nozzle is probably overkill... 8gph at 150psi has got to be quite a bit of cc's per minute.
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Jbd

I did 13.3 at different tracks
13.3 all day long
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BUMP

My nozzle is probably overkill... 8gph at 150psi has got to be quite a bit of cc's per minute.
I'm running a cm10 nozzle at whatever the max PSI is on the pump. Were all probably using the same pump. I ran my 12.8 on a 50/50 mix, for whatever that's worth. I sometimes wonder if I am getting low RPM quench too but don't really know how I would check.
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I wonder if austin is quenching with his meth injection. One easy way to check would be to up the meth concentration to something like 75/25 for a test and see if you pick up a ton of speed. Does anyone know how you could check for quenching using logging software?
Just an idea....perhaps you can use one of those dyno apps on your smartphone. A few are said to be very reliable. Play with your meth settings to see if you pick up power during a run....
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Well after loosing to this race, i asked myself why didn't i beat it! the first year with jbd @ 80% i could keep up more than that with an IS-F approx. same year.
So i brought my car to the dealer for maintenance. The S.A called me back 2 days later to tell me my DPF was fucked(clogged). Check engine. They are ordering a new DPF as well as a DDE for the second time. Last time i had trouble with my metering valve, they changed the DDE. So i'm not surprised i lost that bad to the is-F.
Well see if i see any difference in power.
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Well after loosing to this race, i asked myself why didn't i beat it! the first year with jbd @ 80% i could keep up more than that with an IS-F approx. same year.
So i brought my car to the dealer for maintenance. The S.A called me back 2 days later to tell me my DPF was fucked(clogged). Check engine. They are ordering a new DPF as well as a DDE for the second time. Last time i had trouble with my metering valve, they changed the DDE. So i'm not surprised i lost that bad to the is-F.
Well see if i see any difference in power.
Should have told the SA to keep the DPF and started the "deletes" process instead.

Why are they constantly changing out your DDE? Sounds to me like your dealer is clueless.

"Dart board" trouble shooting, anyone?
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The ISF cannot be tuned, to date there is no tuning program for the Toyota ECU. The ECU in the car is continuously adjusting in its auto-learn mode. It can be piggybacked but I haven't read of any cars doing this reliably, HG makes something called the PowerPlug which has yet to see any real gains (maybe 20hp). These cars mostly rely upon and CAI, headers and exhaust which will usually get them in the 450/450 range. I've personally watched many an ISF run mid 12's in the 110-113 range bone stock. The 8-speed auto makes this car a killer from a roll. When this D's time is up, the F will be what replaces it.
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