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      03-23-2016, 02:53 PM   #23
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Lots of Cps blow on stock boost.. Even the new S55 motors are blowing charge pipes..

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My friend bought a 335I that was completely stock with the exception of an HKS BOV. It was setup the same way with the rear diverter still in there.

I was troubleshooting a low boost issue on his car when I finally convinced him to let me take it out.
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My friend bought a 335I that was completely stock with the exception of an HKS BOV. It was setup the same way with the rear diverter still in there.

I was troubleshooting a low boost issue on his car when I finally convinced him to let me take it out.
Not surprised. The connection to the stock CP via DV for the HKS is suspect at best.

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Not surprised. The connection to the stock CP via DV for the HKS is suspect at best.

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I just came wondering how your customer feels about this thread. Hopefully you sold him something related.

I'm now at 148K miles still waiting for my factory one to break. I've been waiting for years and over 70k miles of tuned boost....I keep getting told its coming.
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I just came wondering how your customer feels about this thread. Hopefully you sold him something related.

I'm now at 148K miles still waiting for my factory one to break. I've been waiting for years and over 70k miles of tuned boost....I keep getting told its coming.
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I just came wondering how your customer feels about this thread. Hopefully you sold him something related.

I'm now at 148K miles still waiting for my factory one to break. I've been waiting for years and over 70k miles of tuned boost....I keep getting told its coming.
I asked him if I could post the pic.. He is getting a proper charge pipe to replace his setup.

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The problem isn't the DV's, it's the OEM CP. It's made of plastic and explodes violently after a few thousand miles of abuse at higher than OEM boost levels.
I respect your company and that you offer great products but the comment that OEM CPs all blow up running non OEM boost level is just rubbish.
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I respect your company and that you offer great products but the comment that OEM CPs all blow up running non OEM boost level is just rubbish.
I completely respect your opinion but from an engineering stand point, the plastic chargepipes are only meant to handle a certain amount of pressure.

I've personally had the pleasure of overnighting hundreds of chargepipes to unfortunate customers who've been stranded by blown chargepipes. Some of them were running stock boost levels, most of them had some sort of tune that raised boost pressures.

I know it sounds biased as I am a vendor who sells replacement chargepipes but ever since I joined this community in 09 I've seen more blown chargepipes than blown HPFP's which is saying something.
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I just came wondering how your customer feels about this thread.
Uh, Phrasing!

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I'm now at 148K miles still waiting for my factory one to break. I've been waiting for years and over 70k miles of tuned boost....I keep getting told its coming.
My experience is that the 2009 "long" pips are less durable. The previous version are much more durable and while the DVs can be an issue, the pipe stats intact.
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Coming back to this thread, I would like to ask what the problem is if:
1. The CP does not break; or if it's an aftermarket non plastic CP with 2 OEM DV ports and set up the same way
2. The HKS flange adapter to the HKS BOV does not leak boost

This is pretty much like running the Turbosmart dual port BOV with 50/50 VTA/Recirc anyway isn't it?

Other than being ugly, what's wrong?
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I respect your company and that you offer great products but the comment that OEM CPs all blow up running non OEM boost level is just rubbish.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. Literally. Clearly it hasn't happened to you. He also didn't say ALL CPs, but it's definitely very common. Happened to my mates wifes totally stock car. Luckily I had mine lying around after upgrading. Read Tiagos follow up comment. It may not happen to everyone or ever for you, but it happens. Deal with it.
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lmao on top of that, that HKS is fake LOL -_-
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lmao on top of that, that HKS is fake LOL -_-
Ya wasn't going to mention that but good eye. LOL I told customer that as well..

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Coming back to this thread, I would like to ask what the problem is if:
1. The CP does not break; or if it's an aftermarket non plastic CP with 2 OEM DV ports and set up the same way
2. The HKS flange adapter to the HKS BOV does not leak boost

This is pretty much like running the Turbosmart dual port BOV with 50/50 VTA/Recirc anyway isn't it?

Other than being ugly, what's wrong?
In my case, my 2008 charge pipe never blew up. It was seeing 18 pounds of boost daily and had 95,000 miles. Don't let anyone tell you you don't know what you're talking about. That dipshit a few posts up doesn't know. 2007-early 2008.style with the rubber elbows are much tougher than the later design. The reason I changed was because I wanted to get rid of the diverter valves as they leaked intermittently. The valves randomly failed to close and they also leaked at the base. The latter could have been rectified with new o rings but I opted for a new pipe with BOV
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Coming back to this thread, I would like to ask what the problem is if:
1. The CP does not break; or if it's an aftermarket non plastic CP with 2 OEM DV ports and set up the same way
2. The HKS flange adapter to the HKS BOV does not leak boost

This is pretty much like running the Turbosmart dual port BOV with 50/50 VTA/Recirc anyway isn't it?

Other than being ugly, what's wrong?
I think the point is that especially #2 is a stretch and a proper HKS flange is about 2-3 times the diameter of the DV port on the stock charge pipe, and since there is a functioning DV the vacuum won't work properly on the HKS as part of it is venting via the DV and not the BOV.

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Uh, Phrasing!

With replies like this ^^ and "TGS is offering a shatter shield for those that want to retain their stock charge pipes. It protects debris from injuring or doing harm to small animals when violent charge pipes explode"

...This just became my new favorite thread!
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In my case, my 2008 charge pipe never blew up. It was seeing 18 pounds of boost daily and had 95,000 miles. Don't let anyone tell you you don't know what you're talking about. That dipshit a few posts up doesn't know. 2007-early 2008.style with the rubber elbows are much tougher than the later design. The reason I changed was because I wanted to get rid of the diverter valves as they leaked intermittently. The valves randomly failed to close and they also leaked at the base. The latter could have been rectified with new o rings but I opted for a new pipe with BOV
that's why i didn't reply him

i have an 07, strong charge pipe

of course if it does burst i'll replace with an aftermarket metal one
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