[djgandy]

So I was giving the roof system a good clean yesterday, getting rid of any green etc. all so I could prep it with some gummi pflege and I came across the bubbling in the pics attached. It's on the edge above the windscreen where the roof locks in.

In my mind rust = car cancer and for a 4 year old car this is not good. Do any other vert owners have anything like this?

I fear I am going to have to have a head on battle with BMW to get this sorted. I thought these things weren't meant to rust for years! I rang my local dealer, but the guy seemed clueless. Going to see him tomorrow anyway, but don't hold much hope.

It's a little saddening as everything else about the car is perfect. I even took it to a detailer for a quote and they said the paintwork needs very little correction.

[RENT-A-GOAT]

Check the terms of the corrosion and more importantly perforation warranty. I had a huge fight 2years in total with VW (dealer I and family had bought many cars from, U.K. Head office and Germany direct) with my last car over rust caused by a design fault thy would not admit to or take any responsibility for repairing just poorly judged good willed gestures that were insulting got me so annoyed and fed up with it all I cut my losses had an accepted fair and decent trade in value by BMW and drove off in my AUC e91. VW would not even have the car as a trade in as it was rusting even tho it was their issue lol.

[Fundguy1]

Mine has nothing. No road salt but plenty if beachside driving.

[pmmcbl]

As long the car it's inspections done you should be able to make a claim. I know it shouldn't matter but if you have full BMW history it should help.
I had a rust problem on a VW and no questions asked, work done asap.

[abeardo83]

That's poor - that's not even a place where you'd get stone chips or anything. If it was the top of the surround, I could potentially sympathize with them, but not there.

I'd say get it booked in. From memory, there is a 10 year warranty on rust / perforation.

[djgandy]

Originally Posted by abeardo83

That's poor - that's not even a place where you'd get stone chips or anything. If it was the top of the surround, I could potentially sympathize with them, but not there.

I'd say get it booked in. From memory, there is a 10 year warranty on rust / perforation.

Great I think so too ,they can't argue much in that location. I spoke to the garage I bought it from and they send I'd have to bring it in, they'd send off a report and goodwill returns etc..

I don't plan on paying myself lol. I expect the job cost will be very expensive, especially for the paint match!

[abeardo83]

It's scary how quickly it takes hold.

[Fundguy1]

Shouldn't be that expensive. Grind off rust, seal, filler, sand, paint the "windscreen" frame the factory color, done. Few hundred quid my guess. But still should be free under warranty. Bmw takes rust prevention seriously.

[FHE92]

Did BMW sort this out in the end?

[djgandy]

Originally Posted by FHE92

Did BMW sort this out in the end?

Awaiting decision from a local (Not holding much hope).

Else its going back to the dealer i bought it from. The service guy there is actually really good and proactively emails me.

[FHE92]

Originally Posted by djgandy

Awaiting decision from a local (Not holding much hope).

Else its going back to the dealer i bought it from. The service guy there is actually really good and proactively emails me.

It would be odd that your local wouldn't do it, it's a BMW issue and the car is under warranty.

Fingers crossed they sort it out.

On another note, how's the DCT box? I maybe going down the M3 route myself (not sure of the vert) but I'm really wanting a manual. I had a test drive in a manual M4 and loved it but I prefer the V8... However it's hard enough finding a decent spec M3 DCT let alone a manual as 9/10 cars are DCT!!!

Still happy with the DCT? Any regrets?

[djgandy]

Originally Posted by FHE92

It would be odd that your local wouldn't do it, it's a BMW issue and the car is under warranty.

Fingers crossed they sort it out.

On another note, how's the DCT box? I maybe going down the M3 route myself (not sure of the vert) but I'm really wanting a manual. I had a test drive in a manual M4 and loved it but I prefer the V8... However it's hard enough finding a decent spec M3 DCT let alone a manual as 9/10 cars are DCT!!!

Still happy with the DCT? Any regrets?

It's more whether they get their act together. They require a lot of chasing and it's a bit of a teeth pulling exercise.

The DCT is great. The choice should depend on what you plan to use it for IMO. If it's a Sunday car a manual might not be a bad idea, but if you use it a lot and spend time in traffic the DCT is a real no brainer.

I do miss the MT a little bit but not a lot to be honest, and when you have the DCT up at 8300rpm and shift the brutalness of it is epic, something the MT does not have.

[andysat]

Sorry cant help -but my e93 has a crease along the roof centre rubber seal-looked after it aswell

[JustinGTP]

Did you buy it brand new? Any accident history or previous repairs to that area?

[FHE92]

Originally Posted by djgandy

It's more whether they get their act together. They require a lot of chasing and it's a bit of a teeth pulling exercise.

The DCT is great. The choice should depend on what you plan to use it for IMO. If it's a Sunday car a manual might not be a bad idea, but if you use it a lot and spend time in traffic the DCT is a real no brainer.

I do miss the MT a little bit but not a lot to be honest, and when you have the DCT up at 8300rpm and shift the brutalness of it is epic, something the MT does not have.

Thanks for the insight.

I'm just going to have to give it a test drive and see how it feels!

Enjoy and I hope BMW sort this issue out for you asap!

[TheBingoBalls]

How does that even happen? Isn't the whole chassis dipped into various liquids to prevent rusting during manufacturing? So in order for rust to happen, it would need to get through the clear coat, paint and primer, no? Unless the roof is rubbing in that area only and over time removes the paint causing rust?

[djgandy]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

How does that even happen? Isn't the whole chassis dipped into various liquids to prevent rusting during manufacturing? So in order for rust to happen, it would need to get through the clear coat, paint and primer, no? Unless the roof is rubbing in that area only and over time removes the paint causing rust?

I believe that the chassis is galvanised from the factory which should stop this happening, in addition to a primer, coat of paint and a clear coat on top.

This kind of defect would indicate some sort of failure in that process. It looks like its bubbled from under the paint

[djgandy]

Got this fixed and the paint job looks pretty decent as far as I can tell so far.

That's more than can be said for their care and attention to the rest of the vehicle.

Shadow line trim has been bent and the a door seal is hanging off!



I think I will run this one outside of warranty when the time comes. Fucking main dealers stress me out.

I wasn't going to complain about them using over 1/4 of a tank of fuel while it was in (it had service work too) because I couldn't be arsed with the stress!