Dealer Mistake

maxcalvino · 03-31-2006, 01:31 AM

wow I'm so :mad: I have been wating 4 my e90 4 more that 5 weaks and you know what the dealer did the sold the one that I order by error

and they told me that they can't get it back.
they order another one and the manager told me that they were not going to charge me the dealer fee that is like $550. but now I have to wait for my car again !!!

is this as happen to any of you guys ???

Dizzy330i · 03-31-2006, 02:14 AM

That is ridiculous! I would be so upset! :mad:

What dealership?? I need to know!

joes3series · 03-31-2006, 03:16 AM

Wonder if it was really a mistake... or, if they got paid a premium from someone who really wanted it now.

KennyVendetta · 03-31-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by maxcalvino

wow I'm so :mad: I have been wating 4 my e90 4 more that 5 weaks and you know what the dealer did the sold the one that I order by error

and they told me that they can't get it back.
they order another one and the manager told me that they were not going to charge me the dealer fee that is like $550. but now I have to wait for my car again !!!

is this as happen to any of you guys ???

What is a "dealer fee?" That sounds shady to me....unless you agreed to it...then it sounds like profit.

LEDZEP · 03-31-2006, 06:09 AM

There is no such thing as a dealer fee. Additionally, if a dealer made a "mistake" and sold a pre-ordered car to someone else, you might just have grounds for a lawsuit. If this really happened, they should be bending over backwards to accomodate you and REDUCING the price. Sounds to me like they have found themselves a first class sucker.

If you order another car through this dealer and pay them any fee then as far as I'm concerned you give up the right to ever complain about anything ever again. I don't know you, and could be wrong, but you sound like someone that they could get to pay extra for the air in the tires.

jz520 · 03-31-2006, 07:01 AM

..5 months ago..my uncle ordered an 06 Range Rover and on the day of delivery we were all excited to pickced it up...on the lot we saw this black RR that was supposed to be his but his salesman and some guys was taking pics with it....moments later we were so shocked to find out from his salesman that his car didnt arrive yet..how could this happen when 2 days before the delivery someone called to let us know that the car is ready on that Saturday....another salesman in the showroom even confirmed that the car is in the lot...is it possible that the moron sold it to someone else? we were so upset that we went to another dealership and bought one the same day...

joes3series · 03-31-2006, 08:19 AM

ledzep is probably right about grounds for a lawsuit- a contract is a contract is a contract, with few exceptions. you should get loaner, at the least. unfortunately, you may have already 'settled' by taking the $550 discount.

sorry for the repeat, but, the more i think about this, i can't imagine how any car gets lost in any car dealer's system nowadays-- let alone BMWs' system where a customer order is priority one. they type in all sorts of junk when you buy a car. they must have known that car was taken. the VIN should've been tagged to your name. if you haven't re-signed any papers, i'd try to get something better than the 550 discount out of it. double-check your price against invoice, negotiate it down if warranted, and get a loaner.

mds82 · 03-31-2006, 08:20 AM

demand some sort of a discount on this!

maxcalvino · 03-31-2006, 08:59 AM

hey guys thanks for the help, I went today to findlaw.com and I call a lawer and he is going to help me with the problem.
I was so anxious to get my e90, you know how hard it was 4 me to get a loan I just turn 20 and this was the 1st car that I was goign to get by my own. with out any help from my parents. and joes3series I think you are right probably someone came and offer them extra money 4 the car. SUCKS!

joes3series · 03-31-2006, 10:07 AM

be careful about getting a lawyer-- not because they won't help you, but, the cost can easily get horrendous. lawyers typically charge around 300-400/hr. They will bill you for every minute you spend with them (on the phone, etc.), and some event round it to 15 minutes (i.e., ~75USD for a 2 minute phone call). It may cost you more to obtain counsel than it would to eat the difference. Consider going through normal means first.... i.e., talk to the manager. Make sure you know what you want to get out of it first, then, talk to the sales person. if he doesn't listen, go to the manager.... Even call up BMW NA and ask them about policies regarding ordering- see what they have to say; see if they could help at all. If you have a friend that is a lawyer and he won't charge just yet, that's a gravy train; otherwise, PLEASE be cautious. Make sure to discuss all fee arrangements prior to accepting someone as your counsel. You are young and naive, and both the dealer and the lawyer know this-- don't let them take advantage of this.

Oh, and I didn't think of this before, but, do consider using "fraud" as a buzzword. That might just be what they did, and, depending on a bunch of factors, that might just make any alleged settlement ineffective. Same might go for "mistake of fact." But, I don't know anything about florida, and, I'm only offering common sense suggestions.

maxcalvino · 03-31-2006, 05:49 PM

well guys good news I did what joes3series told me thank you joe, I went to the dealer and I talk to the menager and well long story short, they give me 4k off the price so the same car that I was going to buy for 38 is now 34

now I only have to wait for it !

ashecnc · 03-31-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by azzurribaggio

I would ask for more than $550 off try and get a $1000 off the out the door price and get a free fleece for yourself, stress how important it is for them to take care of you and show they are willing to make it up to you.....

I think you missed his last reply, he got 4k off

joes3series · 03-31-2006, 08:42 PM

Glad to know it worked out!

maxcalvino · 03-31-2006, 09:35 PM

yea I got a good discount

so now I'm waiting for my car AGAIN but hey is now 4k

cheaper and now I can get the full AC Schnitzer body kit and the Eibach Pro Springs

so I will get back to you guys went I get it o.k, Peace !!

0700700 · 03-31-2006, 09:57 PM

next time they sell it to someone youll get another 4k off... so in 5 years you could get a free car

marketman · 04-01-2006, 07:22 AM

I think Max is a fake and is pulling your chain,girls.

bmwexecutive · 04-02-2006, 09:30 AM

If this happened to me I'd go back home, get the shotgun and demand they get it back.

DeepGreenE90 · 04-03-2006, 11:22 AM

WHAT DEALER WAS IT?

03-31-2006, 01:31 AM	#1
maxcalvino New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: black w black and aluminium Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Dealer Mistake wow I'm so :mad: I have been wating 4 my e90 4 more that 5 weaks and you know what the dealer did the sold the one that I order by error and they told me that they can't get it back. they order another one and the manager told me that they were not going to charge me the dealer fee that is like $550. but now I have to wait for my car again !!! is this as happen to any of you guys ???
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03-31-2006, 02:14 AM	#2
Dizzy330i Private 6 Rep 95 Posts Drives: BMW 330i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	That is ridiculous! I would be so upset! :mad: What dealership?? I need to know! __________________ 2006 330i SG/Terra ZPP Step OEM Spoiler...and Blacklines!!
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03-31-2006, 03:16 AM	#3
joes3series Private 5 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00]	Wonder if it was really a mistake... or, if they got paid a premium from someone who really wanted it now.
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LEDZEP Lieutenant General 446 Rep 12,276 Posts Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [7.62] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	There is no such thing as a dealer fee. Additionally, if a dealer made a "mistake" and sold a pre-ordered car to someone else, you might just have grounds for a lawsuit. If this really happened, they should be bending over backwards to accomodate you and REDUCING the price. Sounds to me like they have found themselves a first class sucker. If you order another car through this dealer and pay them any fee then as far as I'm concerned you give up the right to ever complain about anything ever again. I don't know you, and could be wrong, but you sound like someone that they could get to pay extra for the air in the tires. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious
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jz520 Private 3 Rep 53 Posts Drives: F10 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328 coupe [0.00] 2007 C230 [0.00] 2009 Jeep Wrangler [0.00] 2008 RX350 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00] 2002 X5 [0.00]	dealer mistake??? ..5 months ago..my uncle ordered an 06 Range Rover and on the day of delivery we were all excited to pickced it up...on the lot we saw this black RR that was supposed to be his but his salesman and some guys was taking pics with it....moments later we were so shocked to find out from his salesman that his car didnt arrive yet..how could this happen when 2 days before the delivery someone called to let us know that the car is ready on that Saturday....another salesman in the showroom even confirmed that the car is in the lot...is it possible that the moron sold it to someone else? we were so upset that we went to another dealership and bought one the same day...
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03-31-2006, 08:19 AM	#7
joes3series Private 5 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00]	ledzep is probably right about grounds for a lawsuit- a contract is a contract is a contract, with few exceptions. you should get loaner, at the least. unfortunately, you may have already 'settled' by taking the $550 discount. sorry for the repeat, but, the more i think about this, i can't imagine how any car gets lost in any car dealer's system nowadays-- let alone BMWs' system where a customer order is priority one. they type in all sorts of junk when you buy a car. they must have known that car was taken. the VIN should've been tagged to your name. if you haven't re-signed any papers, i'd try to get something better than the 550 discount out of it. double-check your price against invoice, negotiate it down if warranted, and get a loaner.
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03-31-2006, 08:20 AM	#8
mds82 Major General 383 Rep 5,842 Posts Drives: 2006 325xi Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Central Connecticut iTrader: (40) Garage List 2006 325xi Snow Pics [0.00] 2006 BMW 325xi [0.00]	demand some sort of a discount on this!
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03-31-2006, 08:59 AM	#9
maxcalvino New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: black w black and aluminium Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	hey guys thanks for the help, I went today to findlaw.com and I call a lawer and he is going to help me with the problem. I was so anxious to get my e90, you know how hard it was 4 me to get a loan I just turn 20 and this was the 1st car that I was goign to get by my own. with out any help from my parents. and joes3series I think you are right probably someone came and offer them extra money 4 the car. SUCKS!
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03-31-2006, 10:07 AM	#10
joes3series Private 5 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00]	be careful about getting a lawyer-- not because they won't help you, but, the cost can easily get horrendous. lawyers typically charge around 300-400/hr. They will bill you for every minute you spend with them (on the phone, etc.), and some event round it to 15 minutes (i.e., ~75USD for a 2 minute phone call). It may cost you more to obtain counsel than it would to eat the difference. Consider going through normal means first.... i.e., talk to the manager. Make sure you know what you want to get out of it first, then, talk to the sales person. if he doesn't listen, go to the manager.... Even call up BMW NA and ask them about policies regarding ordering- see what they have to say; see if they could help at all. If you have a friend that is a lawyer and he won't charge just yet, that's a gravy train; otherwise, PLEASE be cautious. Make sure to discuss all fee arrangements prior to accepting someone as your counsel. You are young and naive, and both the dealer and the lawyer know this-- don't let them take advantage of this. Oh, and I didn't think of this before, but, do consider using "fraud" as a buzzword. That might just be what they did, and, depending on a bunch of factors, that might just make any alleged settlement ineffective. Same might go for "mistake of fact." But, I don't know anything about florida, and, I'm only offering common sense suggestions. Last edited by joes3series; 03-31-2006 at 11:12 AM..
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03-31-2006, 05:49 PM	#11
maxcalvino New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: black w black and aluminium Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	well guys good news I did what joes3series told me thank you joe, I went to the dealer and I talk to the menager and well long story short, they give me 4k off the price so the same car that I was going to buy for 38 is now 34 now I only have to wait for it !
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03-31-2006, 08:42 PM	#13
joes3series Private 5 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00]	Glad to know it worked out!
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03-31-2006, 09:35 PM	#14
maxcalvino New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: black w black and aluminium Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	yea I got a good discount so now I'm waiting for my car AGAIN but hey is now 4k cheaper and now I can get the full AC Schnitzer body kit and the Eibach Pro Springs so I will get back to you guys went I get it o.k, Peace !!
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0700700 Major 82 Rep 1,055 Posts Drives: 745li / cls 55 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: BG iTrader: (0)	next time they sell it to someone youll get another 4k off... so in 5 years you could get a free car __________________ 2007 CLS55 AMG / 2003 BMW 745Li
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04-01-2006, 07:22 AM	#16
marketman Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2000 323it Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne FL iTrader: (0)	I think Max is a fake and is pulling your chain,girls. __________________ Live now. THere will be plenty of time to be dead later.
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04-02-2006, 09:30 AM	#17
bmwexecutive Banned 252 Rep 2,453 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast iTrader: (4)	If this happened to me I'd go back home, get the shotgun and demand they get it back.
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04-03-2006, 11:22 AM	#18
DeepGreenE90 Your Daddy 0 Rep 22 Posts Drives: E90/ZSP/DeepGreen/Terra/6spd Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	WHAT DEALER WAS IT? __________________ That Lexus sure is a nice...Toyota....
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