[Miller335]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

Just watch for Valve guides

$$$ quick

Yup you're in a situation where you need to do the heads asap after you buy it and if you're going to do the heads you might as well do the cam and id you're going to do the cam you might as well go FBO. So on a so forth.

And I dont care what anyone says building up/modding a LS isnt THAT cheap. Ive seen the parts list/receipts on some of my friends LS powered cars.

A heads/cam/fbo C6Z is a monster though.

[Unknown_Car]

Originally Posted by feuer

Or didn't know how to drive, or was just being a good friend. That car would put bus lengthy on FBO 335i

Not true. He raced that night with a evo also that makes 480awhp and he killed the vett. Unless the vet driver is lying about the hp.

[dublin14]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Not true. He raced that night with a evo also that makes 480awhp and he killed the vett. Unless the vet driver is lying about the hp.

600whp C5 Z would eat a 480awhp evo. Vette owner was dreaming.

[langsbr]

What is the qualification for fastest FBO? Here in hillbilly SC, guys will take a stock fox body and for under 10K including the car run low to mid 10s. They can't stop or turn worth a damn, but they can run the 1/4.

[dublin14]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Not true. He raced that night with a evo also that makes 480awhp and he killed the vett. Unless the vet driver is lying about the hp.

600whp C5 Z would eat a 480awhp evo. Vette owner was dreaming.

[Unknown_Car]

Originally Posted by dublin14

600whp C5 Z would eat a 480awhp evo. Vette owner was dreaming.

Yea that's what I was thinking. 600whp is alot.

[bokyo1987]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Not true. He raced that night with a evo also that makes 480awhp and he killed the vett. Unless the vet driver is lying about the hp.

Highly doubt that a 480awhp Evo has enough to outrun a 600whp C5. From a dig, the C5 will track the Evo down fast after the hit. The Evo’s awd advantage is even less noticeable from a roll.

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison with your races but my previous N54 car (582whp at ~24psi on a Dynojet, ~20psi at the track) was only .2 mph quicker and about ~3 mph faster than my current C6 (only 425whp on a Dynojet) at the same track, same season with similar 60ft times.

[GEOS07335i]

I think best bang for the buck is the Coyete Mustang. However if you look at the bigger picture (styling, handling, refinement and performance) the N54 platform is hard to beat and has to be at the top of any list.

My biggest beef with the N54 is the super high maintenance cost and all of the issues plagued by this generation (HPFP, Injectors, Water pump) my 08 335i for example had original injectors, original HPFP major expenses to consider which will eat into any FBO budget and has to be considered when buying one.

[F80Mmm]

Originally Posted by GEOS07335i

I think best bang for the buck is the Coyete Mustang. However if you look at the bigger picture (styling, handling, refinement and performance) the N54 platform is hard to beat and has to be at the top of any list.

My biggest beef with the N54 is the super high maintenance cost and all of the issues plagued by this generation (HPFP, Injectors, Water pump) my 08 335i for example had original injectors, original HPFP major expenses to consider which will eat into any FBO budget and has to be considered when buying one.

I'm guessing you're 16-23 years old....you mentioned $1200 in parts, which isn't really much of a big deal with steady income. I believe the depreciation on our cars has more than made up for any upfront cost associated with the purchase. People cry way too much about maintenance, just wait if you want to get an //M someday.

[Quick335XI]

I've been into cars and racing for over 20 years. I've also owned Corvettes, vr4 all kinds of stuff, had. 65 mustang and turbo AWD eclipse (total junk, as with anything miysubitchi makes I clueing our stock turbos!!).

When I see out for another performance car five years ago, I knew I wanted two things: turbo, and AWD. I heard about the 335 and was like oh hell yeah it's even a v6. Can't get AWD in a mustang, Dodge, Camaro or Corvette ...

Yes you can put blowers on Coyotoes just search YouTube for all the blown up motors as a result. They are NOT made for boost, they're made to be high compression NA motors. Same with vetted and such. 335 came from factor with boost in mind and can take a TON of it as we've seen. I've owned several mustangs.

This is the best car I've ever had, driven, ridden
in, anything. I'm 48, it'll probably be the last car I ever own... I love it THAT much.

[MysticRob]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

...Yes you can put blowers on Coyotoes just search YouTube for all the blown up motors as a result. They are NOT made for boost, they're made to be high compression NA motors. Same with vetted and such. 335 came from factor with boost in mind and can take a TON of it as we've seen. I've owned several mustangs.

This is the best car I've ever had, driven, ridden
in, anything. I'm 48, it'll probably be the last car I ever own... I love it THAT much.

Same here at 47. I had an 84 Mustang GT 'vert, a 2004 Mystichrome Cobra 'vert (just made for more yummy boost), and a few other throwaway cars over the years, and my 335i is one I'll keep a very long time just for the feel and performance possibilities. An MHD tune, some go-fast bolt-ons, and suddenly it's a bigger blast to drive wherever, whenever. And I'm older now, so 4 doors is convenient and not so 'uncool'.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

I've been into cars and racing for over 20 years. I've also owned Corvettes, vr4 all kinds of stuff, had. 65 mustang and turbo AWD eclipse (total junk, as with anything miysubitchi makes I clueing our stock turbos!!).

When I see out for another performance car five years ago, I knew I wanted two things: turbo, and AWD. I heard about the 335 and was like oh hell yeah it's even a v6. Can't get AWD in a mustang, Dodge, Camaro or Corvette ...

Yes you can put blowers on Coyotoes just search YouTube for all the blown up motors as a result. They are NOT made for boost, they're made to be high compression NA motors. Same with vetted and such. 335 came from factor with boost in mind and can take a TON of it as we've seen. I've owned several mustangs.

This is the best car I've ever had, driven, ridden
in, anything. I'm 48, it'll probably be the last car I ever own... I love it THAT much.

You must have a special edition 335 with that v6 motor.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

You must have a special edition 335 with that v6 motor.

Yes, engine code 6A1. All the car experts here lol

[bokyo1987]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

I've been into cars and racing for over 20 years. I've also owned Corvettes, vr4 all kinds of stuff, had. 65 mustang and turbo AWD eclipse (total junk, as with anything miysubitchi makes I clueing our stock turbos!!).

When I see out for another performance car five years ago, I knew I wanted two things: turbo, and AWD. I heard about the 335 and was like oh hell yeah it's even a v6. Can't get AWD in a mustang, Dodge, Camaro or Corvette ...

Yes you can put blowers on Coyotoes just search YouTube for all the blown up motors as a result. They are NOT made for boost, they're made to be high compression NA motors. Same with vetted and such. 335 came from factor with boost in mind and can take a TON of it as we've seen. I've owned several mustangs.

This is the best car I've ever had, driven, ridden
in, anything. I'm 48, it'll probably be the last car I ever own... I love it THAT much.

Coyotes, as well as LS/LT, motors handle boost just fine from what I’ve seen personally. Even the 4v 4.6 from 03-04 Cobras produced a decade and a half ago have minimal issues running much higher boost than when it rolled off the production line. As with most FI builds with the usual suspects, just make sure fueling (to include meth) is on-point and Coyote/LS/LT set-ups will be trouble-free for the most part, just don’t get greedy/stupid.

As for AWD, I’ll cede that as it’s never been a big part of the domestic scene. Congrats on finding the car you want exactly as you want it though.

[Quick335XI]

Actually the mustangs do NOT hold boost well. Even back in the 80s and 90s when I had a built one everyone who had them knew all about common blown head gaskets due to not having enough head bolts. I've taken entire 5.0 motors apart and am very familiar with mustangs. Even owned a turbo svo.

And every time I turn around I'm hearing of a coyote spinning a rod bearing or blwoing something up and building up a motor because they put a charger on it. They aren't anywhere near the N54. They make a big deal about finally getting direct injection lol.

Many 335s running around with 250,000, even 300 miles and run great.

If you ever had a mustang or Camaro do that, you're very lucky indeed! I sure haven't.

Plus alot of the other things on them fall apart around 80k. My c5 had electrical issues at 90k and so did my friends zo6

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by Mit_Boost

+1 for C6Z. Full bolt-ons (heads, cam, intake, exhaust, intake manifold) with a quality tune can make over 600 WHP on all motor. Very reliable platform, and because it's domestic it'll also be very inexpensive to maintain.

Add in a little nitrous and you can hit mid 700 WHP

DAYUM!! I do LOVE the sound of a nice LUMPY cam!!

When my N54 goes eventually, hopefully after a good 220k+ miles, I'm gonna put in a monster built up motors with titanium valve train, stroker cam and some nice LUMPY camshafts ... And, of course, a GINORMOUS single turbo snail!!

[bokyo1987]

^ Just gonna have to agree to disagree with you on the modern 5.0s’ capability and reliability when boosted.

With regards to overall reliability and longevity... I’d trust C5/C6 Vettes, 5G Camaros, S197s, S550s, etc. to go over 100k miles more reliably than e8x and e9x cars (either stock or modded) based on what I have personally experienced and witnessed, YMMV.

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by bokyo1987

^ Just gonna have to agree to disagree with you on the modern 5.0s’ capability and reliability when boosted.

With regards to overall reliability and longevity... I’d trust C5/C6 Vettes, 5G Camaros, S197s, S550s, etc. to go over 100k miles more reliably than e8x and e9x cars (either stock or modded) based on what I have personally experienced and witnessed, YMMV.

Not me. At all.

335 is a SOLID car I've owned two now, would and had very little problems. ALL cars have issues, I have a friend with a Toyota Camry and needs a transmission at 110k.

Only issues of any significance with 335 are the water pumps and every 100k isn't much to complain about. Can't count the turbos they were made by miysubitchi.