[PORTMOODY]

Hi All,

I just picked up an 09 335d. Here are the specs:

• EGR Delete
• DPF Delete
• SCR Gutted
• DUDMD Tuned
• CBU cleaned at 80k KM
• Deletes done at 95K KM
• Car currently at 109K KM

I want to run meth for cleaning purposes, and I'll take any benefits by way of power or mpg gains. I've read for hours and can't find a diy for a meth kit install and I am seeing a lot of different options out there. Can anyone help me with a recommendation based on the above and maybe some diy direction for install.

[Chief Orman]

Originally Posted by PORTMOODY

Hi All,

I just picked up an 09 335d. Here are the specs:

• EGR Delete
• DPF Delete
• SCR Gutted
• DUDMD Tuned
• CBU cleaned at 80k KM
• Deletes done at 95K KM
• Car currently at 109K KM

I want to run meth for cleaning purposes, and I'll take any benefits by way of power or mpg gains. I've read for hours and can't find a diy for a meth kit install and I am seeing a lot of different options out there. Can anyone help me with a recommendation based on the above and maybe some diy direction for install.

I used a Snow kit. Certainly not the most sophisticated but it works fine.

[Soonerbilly]

Ryan @ BRR can help you....PM me for his contact info.

[PORTMOODY]

Originally Posted by Chief Orman

I used a Snow kit. Certainly not the most sophisticated but it works fine.

It seems priced fair and BPC supports it and I trust them as a tuner. I just have no clue on how to install it. Im pretty diy savvy, but I'm not familiar with meth completely. Did you install it yourself?

[Yozh]

Is your car white and did you pick it up from Billy?

[PORTMOODY]

Originally Posted by Yozh

Is your car white and did you pick it up from Billy?

looool. Yes it is.

[Yozh]

PM me your number I’ll add you to the local group. Billy is still around with us.

[335dlci]

I have torqbyte

[PORTMOODY]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

I have torqbyte

I looked them up briefly. I am still all very new to meth and how it needs to be set up and configured etc. What I understand the snow kit that most get, and that bpc offers is set to run strictly off of boost and then there is the question of 1 nozzle or 2 nozzles. I've seen people do it differently. It seems as though torqbyte allows for multiple parameters so that for example RPM and boost can be targeted so it doesn't spray at low rpm high boost situations like close to idle, which I believe results in quenching. I like that torqbyte is canadian but they are just a controller right, not a whole kit?

I emailed snow performance and they linked me to a stage 2.5 kit with braided lines and then a separate link for the length of hose i'd need and a separate link for the 2.5 gallon tanks. All together it seemed like it would come to about $1000 USD or so. I still feel like I need to read more to get a better understanding in terms of # of nozzles and size of nozzles etc. I want something simple to clean the valves and what little CBU is there since the walnut blasting about 30K km ago.

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by PORTMOODY

I looked them up briefly. I am still all very new to meth and how it needs to be set up and configured etc. What I understand the snow kit that most get, and that bpc offers is set to run strictly off of boost and then there is the question of 1 nozzle or 2 nozzles. I've seen people do it differently. It seems as though torqbyte allows for multiple parameters so that for example RPM and boost can be targeted so it doesn't spray at low rpm high boost situations like close to idle, which I believe results in quenching. I like that torqbyte is canadian but they are just a controller right, not a whole kit?

I emailed snow performance and they linked me to a stage 2.5 kit with braided lines and then a separate link for the length of hose i'd need and a separate link for the 2.5 gallon tanks. All together it seemed like it would come to about $1000 USD or so. I still feel like I need to read more to get a better understanding in terms of # of nozzles and size of nozzles etc. I want something simple to clean the valves and what little CBU is there since the walnut blasting about 30K km ago.

funny that snow although sells quailty products but They offer torqbytes unit with less features that the unit on torqbytes website. still going strong at 97k without ever needing a cleaning.

[PORTMOODY]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

funny that snow although sells quailty products but They offer torqbytes unit with less features that the unit on torqbytes website. still going strong at 97k without ever needing a cleaning.

That's what I like to hear. I've seen some pictures of bad carbon and then install of meth and pulling the manifold after some years. Was almost spotless. I sent you a pm. I'd love to piece together a kit with the torqbyte kit. I checked their site and they have a really convenient way of pulling the signals from the OBD port with an adapter.

I think the ideal set up would be:

Torqbyte
2 nozzles (1 smaller for low boost low rpm scenarios, 1 bigger one for the opposite)
stainless braided lines
trunk mounted tank big enough to last at least one full tank of gas or more

[Nadir Point]

I think you are on the right track with the 2-stage approach. That is what I did, and it has been working almost flawlessly for a few years now. Apart from racing (bigger nozzle), a small nozzle coming in between 10-15psi will give the cleaning/maintenance-type effect as well as temper EGT, preventing high EGT/spikes on things like long, uphill mountain pulls.

I discovered quite by accident last year, the W/M is what was enabling upper range fueling for more than a few seconds on my tune. The engine malfunc warning started popping up at some point for no apparent reason. After scratching my head and checking stuff for many weeks I noticed the water tank wasn't dropping as fast as expected, and found the small nozzle clogged. After replacement, the warning alert disappeared and the thing started pulling hard for as long as my courage lasted once again. There was a point of hard fueling before the big nozzle kicked in that allowed EGT to get too high.

[PORTMOODY]

Thats good feedback. I'm still researching a lot. Its a little challenging trying to understand exactly all the components I would need, where to place them, wire them, etc but I am going to keep going. The main components I believe I have a handle on.

[Nadir Point]

Just be sure to use good quality parts - switches, check valves, pumps and nozzles come in all flavors and sizes. Alot of them are junk.

[slowbrick]

You can use a devils own kit but I do not recommend their solenoid for a couple reasons. Many here seem to like the Snow kit. If you really just looking for the cleaning benefits Torqbyte may be bit too much for your use but it is the best overall way to go.

[PORTMOODY]

Originally Posted by slowbrick

You can use a devils own kit but I do not recommend their solenoid for a couple reasons. Many here seem to like the Snow kit. If you really just looking for the cleaning benefits Torqbyte may be bit too much for your use but it is the best overall way to go.

torqbyte is definitely too much for my less than novice level right now, but I always like the saying, "buy once, cry once". If its quality kit, I don't mind buying it and I like to have something I can scale up with.

I might just buy all the other components from snow performance as I don't hear too many people knocking them.