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      06-16-2008, 03:40 PM   #67
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How much of a pressure drop is he getting with the intercooler?
I'm not sure of the pressure drop but he is seeing 13psi on the boost gauge with that setup I listed above.
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I'm not sure of the pressure drop but he is seeing 13psi on the boost gauge with that setup I listed above.
13 eh, well the DP's are causing some of that about a lb or two i would bet. I will know more when Riss installs mine this week. Then I can do some testing to check out boost levels.

What are his AFR's with that setup? If you know. The car must pull like crazy in that configuration Wait a minute, do you live in the Lone Star State? Taht car is sounding a lot like our dealer in Houston's car.

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13 eh, well the DP's are causing some of that about a lb or two i would bet. I will know more when Riss installs mine this week. Then I can do some testing to check out boost levels.

What are his AFR's with that setup? If you know. The car must pull like crazy in that configuration Wait a minute, do you live in the Lone Star State? Taht car is sounding a lot like our dealer in Houston's car.

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It might just be your dealer in Houston....
I should have recognized the mods. I have his dyno charts right here in front of me.


We are going to end up with almost duplicate cars I think. Especially if he does my new Formula One exhaust system we are nearly finished with.

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I should have recognized the mods. I have his dyno charts right here in front of me.


We are going to end up with almost duplicate cars I think. Especially if he does my new Formula One exhaust system we are nearly finished with.

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Very cool Jeff. I shot you over a PM as well....
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I should have recognized the mods. I have his dyno charts right here in front of me.


We are going to end up with almost duplicate cars I think. Especially if he does my new Formula One exhaust system we are nearly finished with.

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So far the design fits the 135 only. Mostly since we want to have the exhaust exit the center of the rear valance and not on the side. We will also offer it in a side exit option. Right now we are manufacturing the flanges since it is going to be a true bolt on with no welding.

BMW won't sell you just the flanges! They make you buy the whole bloody exhaust

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Should have new Dynos this week

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      06-25-2008, 02:46 PM   #75
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resetting without TT

OK had it off my car for a while now and even though I really screamed the car have not been able to recreate the limp mode without it, I then disconnected the battery and reconnected so as to reset the ecu, again no problems, finally I refitted the TT disconnected the battery and ran her again and sadly the same fault comes up i.e. limp mode, it feels to me like the turbo is overboosting so I am not going to risk putting it on again as I am a month away from my first service, I think I have a faulty TT unit but not a lot I can do about it from Abu Dhabi
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OK had it off my car for a while now and even though I really screamed the car have not been able to recreate the limp mode without it, I then disconnected the battery and reconnected so as to reset the ecu, again no problems, finally I refitted the TT disconnected the battery and ran her again and sadly the same fault comes up i.e. limp mode, it feels to me like the turbo is overboosting so I am not going to risk putting it on again as I am a month away from my first service, I think I have a faulty TT unit but not a lot I can do about it from Abu Dhabi
send it back to us Will and we will check it out. Could be a faulty connection. We have had a few. Especially if its been on and off a few times.

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Any word on this and the 30 rev ECUs?
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Any word on this and the 30 rev ECUs?
I only know of a couple of folks who have had the new software. But so far no issues and I do not expect any at all.

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Hey Jeff, I got a question about a recent bmw service bulletin:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B122008g.htm

"With the integration level of E89X-08-03-530 or higher (introduced with Progman V29.02.00), any alteration to the TMAP sensor signal ("piggyback box") is detected by setting the DME fault code 2D18 ("Manipulation protection, air mass signal plausibility"). In such a case, the maximum engine torque cannot exceed 400Nm."

Sounds like they are targeting the SSTT. I'm wondering if you've got any comments on this.
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Hey Jeff, I got a question about a recent bmw service bulletin:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B122008g.htm

"With the integration level of E89X-08-03-530 or higher (introduced with Progman V29.02.00), any alteration to the TMAP sensor signal ("piggyback box") is detected by setting the DME fault code 2D18 ("Manipulation protection, air mass signal plausibility"). In such a case, the maximum engine torque cannot exceed 400Nm."

Sounds like they are targeting the SSTT. I'm wondering if you've got any comments on this.
Interesting find.... I'd like to hear Jeff's comments on this too.
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Hey Jeff, I got a question about a recent bmw service bulletin:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B122008g.htm

"With the integration level of E89X-08-03-530 or higher (introduced with Progman V29.02.00), any alteration to the TMAP sensor signal ("piggyback box") is detected by setting the DME fault code 2D18 ("Manipulation protection, air mass signal plausibility"). In such a case, the maximum engine torque cannot exceed 400Nm."

Sounds like they are targeting the SSTT. I'm wondering if you've got any comments on this.
WE are well aware of this diagnostic test and the SSTT will not set the code. It depends on how you alter the signals and how you talk to the DME. If you notice in the TSB the "software" is the main culprit they are discussing and the "Piggyback". We are neither a "Piggyback" nor are we "software".

They are correct that if you alter signals in a manner that causes a plausibility mismatch you will get a code. The SSTT doesn't create this problem hence we have never been found on any diagnostic sweep even with the unit still on the car let alone when it has been removed

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Thanks Jeff!
Don'† thank me brother, I am just the world wide distributor and Turbo Tuner tester All the kudos go to Split Second! It was they who learned of the signal matching way back and designed the system around that issue.

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WE are well aware of this diagnostic test and the SSTT will not set the code. It depends on how you alter the signals and how you talk to the DME. If you notice in the TSB the "software" is the main culprit they are discussing and the "Piggyback". We are neither a "Piggyback" nor are we "software".
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Hi Jeff. Thanks for the answers, but it does refer to your product directly...

"An aftermarket engine performance tuning kit, "turbo-tuner control module" (piggyback box), is (or was) installed in the vehicle."

I'm about to purchase the TT, with the great special you have going on. But the fact that it names it directly worries me. Can you enlighten me a bit more.

Thanks!!
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Hi Jeff. Thanks for the answers, but it does refer to your product directly...

"An aftermarket engine performance tuning kit, "turbo-tuner control module" (piggyback box), is (or was) installed in the vehicle."

I'm about to purchase the TT, with the great special you have going on. But the fact that it names it directly worries me. Can you enlighten me a bit more.

Thanks!!
Nothing to say on that one other than when you go to the market to get tissue you ask for Kleenex not Tissue. The Turbo Tuner has more units on the road by an incredible number.

Also there are hundreds of techs and folks who work around the company who know the name and own SSTT's themselves. "turbo tuner control module" can refer to any device or software that increases boost. They needed a name and ours is generic enough that fits their description.

Edit: Notice they are discussing Emissions testing problems and emissions monitors. This is caused when people connect piggy back devices to the O2 sensors in order to increase fueling. Of if people are running catless downpipes and used O2 sims to make the SES light go away.

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FWIW, v81 and 29.2 with SSTT have shown some awesome gains close to 340WHP and 340WTQ, so that right there just goes to show it is not throwing codes and not limiting power. BTW havent we gone over this numerous times since the last bullentin was released? Split Second and Eurobahn have tested these new programs on there v81135i and there 29.2 335i and some of the first to do so.
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FWIW, v81 and 29.2 with SSTT have shown some awesome gains close to 340WHP and 340WTQ, so that right there just goes to show it is not throwing codes and not limiting power. BTW havent we gone over this numerous times since the last bullentin was released? Split Second and Eurobahn have tested these new programs on there v81135i and there 29.2 335i and some of the first to do so.
Just confirming the previous information. Also, Jeff is always quick and informative on his responses (much appreciated ).
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