[Germanauto]

Priced quite high, will likely depreciate a lot, but seems like a pretty good product. A family member has a Macan S and while I love the sport exhaust, I don't love the tall gearing. The instant torque will be welcome.

Weight is the enemy of handling, so I'm curious to see how these will handle. The current model is a bit understeery at the limit, but I attribute that to the MLB platform.

[P1]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

EVs are in their infancy and battery tech improves every generation. If you want new its best (and probably cheaper) to lease.

Most 2020 Taycan's have lost 50% of their MSRP at this point:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/695758311

Correct. And that's he recommended. They are discounted right off the bat without having to ask for it. And yes, then just lease it and not worry about depreciation.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by P1

Correct. And that's he recommended. They are discounted right off the bat without having to ask for it. And yes, then just lease it and not worry about depreciation.

Too bad Porsche lease rates are the absolute worst of any manufacturer.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

I’m def interested in a Taycan turbo S once they hit $60k. Might not be much longer at this rate.

$60k is way too much.
It will cost you a crazy figure to fix anything on the Taycan out of warranty. There are no independent shops that want to touch EVs and even many Porsche dealers can’t solve the issues.

Best option is to lease a new one.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by R N M

$60k is way too much.
It will cost you a crazy figure to fix anything on the Taycan out of warranty. There are no independent shops that want to touch EVs and even many Porsche dealers can’t solve the issues.

Best option is to lease a new one.

$60k is too much for a $220k car? The battery has an 8 year warranty. CPO exists. They're good value once they hit $60k or so. They're going to keep dropping like a rock at the current $100-130k prices. Leasing a new one would be like $3k a month lol.

[Car-Addicted]

With all these negatives Porsche keeps pumping out the cars and people keep buying them. BAT has always got late model Porsche's selling at over MSRP. I'm thinking the problem is not Porsche but us?

[R N M]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

$60k is too much for a $220k car? The battery has an 8 year warranty. CPO exists. They're good value once they hit $60k or so. They're going to keep dropping like a rock at the current $100-130k prices. Leasing a new one would be like $3k a month lol.

Ok go for it 👍

Much rather buy a 911 Turbo, Panamera Turbo or Cayenne Turbo.
I will lose much less in depreciation buying those as a CPO than a Taycan, although purchase price is higher.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

With all these negatives Porsche keeps pumping out the cars and people keep buying them. BAT has always got late model Porsche's selling at over MSRP. I'm thinking the problem is not Porsche but us?

Taycans are selling at over MSRP on BaT?!

The only cars commanding that now are GT cars (ie GT3, GT3RS, GT4RS, specialty models like Dakar, SportClassic) and even those have come crashing down.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by R N M

Taycans are selling at over MSRP on BaT?!
The only cars commanding that now are GT cars (ie GT3, GT3RS, GT4RS, specialty models like Dakar, SportClassic) and even those have come crashing down.

I was being general about Porsche.
Here is the Taycan page on BAT. I don't know the price history of the Taycan but I suspect they are averaging below MSRP.

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/taycan/

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by R N M

Ok go for it 👍

Much rather buy a 911 Turbo, Panamera Turbo or Cayenne Turbo.
I will lose much less in depreciation buying those as a CPO than a Taycan, although purchase price is higher.

I have a Panamera Turbo S already. A Cayenne or Panamera is going to depreciate just about as much as a Taycan. My Panamera had a $223k sticker and I got it for $53k with 60k miles on it recently. I had a Cayenne turbo a few years ago with $160k sticker that I paid $45k for with 40k miles on it and it was about 8 years old at the time.

A 911 turbo is a great car but one less than 10 years old is going to be $90k+ even for high mileage and I need the extra cargo space for a daily. I’ve had 7 911s, a Macan GTS, and the CTT and PTS so I’m very familiar with all of these.

[P1]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

I have a Panamera Turbo S already. A Cayenne or Panamera is going to depreciate just about as much as a Taycan. My Panamera had a $223k sticker and I got it for $53k with 60k miles on it recently. I had a Cayenne turbo a few years ago with $160k sticker that I paid $45k for with 40k miles on it and it was about 8 years old at the time.

A 911 turbo is a great car but one less than 10 years old is going to be $90k+ even for high mileage and I need the extra cargo space for a daily. I’ve had 7 911s, a Macan GTS, and the CTT and PTS so I’m very familiar with all of these.

Let's see some pics of the Pan Am!

[x622]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Too bad Porsche lease rates are the absolute worst of any manufacturer.

They quoted me more than a Rolls for a Cayenne Turbo GT. Laughed heartily.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by P1

Let's see some pics of the Pan Am!

[Donatello.]

Hard pass