[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

I agree with you on all of that, but we are taking about the ICE version of the car here.

They realized EV only was a giant fail so here we are with another fast ICE car available. Not a bad thing.

There is no ICE version yet. It's coming but not until much later this year. And it's AWD only, and I6 only.

[thebmw]

I saw the new Charger around Detroit over the last year. Really boring and no presence. In fact, it already looks dated and frumpy. Add EV to the mix and it is a HUGE swing and miss by Dodge. Give me another M6 (in addition to the 4 I have) all day long over the new Charger.

[stbm5]

totally unappealing car. how does it have so much HP and a lame 0-60 time?

[gblansten]

And we watch Stellantis in the act of dying.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by stbm5

totally unappealing car. how does it have so much HP and a lame 0-60 time?

Weight. It's nearly 6000 pounds. That's more than an F150, Expedition, X5, X7, etc etc etc. It's insanely heavy, it's 1500 pounds heavier than the V8 4 door charger, and this one is a 2 door!