[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by M_Torx

Hey just thought would say the comments on the new car wow video are kinda funny lol people not impressed

What else is new...BMW crowd is a fickle bunch. They never like anything new, six months later they're ordering it.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

What else is new...BMW crowd is a fickle bunch. They never like anything new, six months later they're ordering it.

You are applying the 10% to the rest of the crowd...

[DrFerry]

Car Wow says it's the new M3?
Whoever buys one of these will need a very large budget for new tires...
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[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Car Wow says it's the new M3?
Whoever buys one of these will need a very large budget for new tires...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfB8-u7Eme4

If the rear end looks like a Lincoln I’ll be shocked

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

So I'm not worried about the looks.

It's a test mule. More interesting is the fact that one computer controls everything instead of different ECUs controlling braking, engine, steering, etc.

This means that passing parameters from one function to another is on the order of 100-1000x faster since the parameter lives in memory and does not need multiple I/On operations.

So DSC, braking, etc can be monitored and manipulated faster than anything BMW has now.

I'm interested in the drivetrain. Not sure if I'll buy one. I have an i4 and don't see myself swapping it for a new EV in a couple of years.

It's a giant computer with a battery to irradiate your balls and organs. Forced into production by the climate hoax, C40 cities, and other related globalist fraud.

Yawn.

[M_Torx]

Originally Posted by Neusser

It's a giant computer with a battery to irradiate your balls and organs. Forced into production by the climate hoax, C40 cities, and other related globalist fraud.

Yawn.

Didn't say anything but am going to have to agree 1000% ^ EVs 🔋just don't tickle the right spot or any spot lol

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by Jason

Endurance Test for "Heart of Joy": the BMW Vision Driving Experience

• World-class dynamics, precision, efficiency, and driving pleasure.
• New “Heart of Joy” central computer works ten times faster than current systems.
• Extending the recuperation range increases efficiency by 25%.

Woodcliff Lake, NJ – February 16, 2025… Showcasing driving pleasure up to the physical limits is BMW’s mission with its new high-performance test vehicle – the BMW Vision Driving Experience. This Vision Vehicle is not destined for production, but is instead serving as a rolling test rig for drivetrain and driving dynamics management technology developed specially for the Neue Klasse – the next generation of BMW vehicles – and referred to by BMW as the “Heart of Joy”. The prototype vehicle put the capabilities of the Heart of Joy to the ultimate test of endurance at the BMW Performance Center in Spartanburg, SC, and BMW provided exclusive insights into its development program for the electric driving experience on board the Neue Klasse as part of a preview presentation. Every fully electric Neue Klasse model will benefit from the Heart of Joy.

The first Neue Klasse model will go into series production later this year at Plant Debrecen in Hungary. The new Heart of Joy adds a fourth dimension – BMW’s characteristic driving pleasure – to the existing portfolio of Neue Klasse characteristics (electric, digital, and circular). Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, took to the stage at the IAA 2023 show holding the small black box.

“The Heart of Joy enables us to take driving pleasure not just to the next level, but another one beyond that,” says Frank Weber, member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, responsible for Development. “In addition, we are further increasing efficiency, and therefore boosting range, as in future the driver will brake almost exclusively using energy regeneration. This is Efficient Dynamics squared.”

It is important to note that the control unit will go into series production, but the Vision Vehicle will not.

Computer processing now ten times faster.

The Heart of Joy control unit for the drivetrain, brakes, charging, recuperation, and steering functions processes information ten times faster than previous systems. Working in tandem with the BMW Dynamic Performance Control software, the Heart of Joy computes all the driving dynamics functions with a whole new level of speed and precision. The control unit has been developed entirely in-house using knowledge gained in the field of driving dynamics amassed by BMW engineers over more than a century. The Vision Vehicle develops 13,269 lb-ft of torqure. The reasoning behind this is that if the control system can deal with an explosion of power of this magnitude, it will be able to handle the demands of everyday driving with ease.

Energy recovery under braking (recuperation) sees the drivetrain and braking functions of electric vehicles working symbiotically. In the innovative electronics architecture of the Neue Klasse, the Heart of Joy is one of four central units and combines drivetrain and driving dynamics fuctions for the first time. These innovative control functions are protected by several patent applications. The high-performance unit controls acceleration and braking, vehicle stabilization, dynamic steering functions, and charging management. The central processing unit and perfectly coordinated BMW Dynamic Performance Control software developed in-house enable all connected actuators to respond directly and with minimal delay: latencies are in the milliseond range. By contrast, conventional systems have separate control algorithms for the drive system and brakes. This means the full handling potential of vehicles with powerful electric drive systems cannot be fully exploited.

Precise cornering and the smooth braking.

The driver and passengers experience a harmonious and noiseless driving feeling – regardless of the situation and speed they are travelling at. In dynamic driving scenarios, the new Heart of Joy / BMW Dynamic Performance Control combination delivers cornering poise and assurance beyond compare. The vehicle generates impressive traction and can be threaded through corners with exceptional precision. Fewer control inputs are required and the vehicle’s line can be maintained with greater precision and stability. This helps the vehicle to develop consistent cornering behavior and allows it to be steered more intuitively and smoothly. At low speeds – such as in stop-and-go driving or when parking – direct signal trasnmissions and rapid information processing ensure a compelling driving experience. In driving modes D or B, or when using Active Cruise Control, the parking brake, or Auto Hold, stopping and restarting merge seamlessly into one another.

Recuperation fuels a 25% increase in efficiency.

Furthermore, integrated drivetrain, braking, and energy recuperation control allows energy to be used more sustainably. Drivers will not need to apply the conventional brakes in most situations. The braking power generated using energy recuperation is sufficient for normal, everyday driving. Only under heavy braking, e.g. in an emergency situation, is intervention required from the friction brakes. All in all, this system increases efficiency by up to 25%.

The BMW Vision Driving Experience test vehicle visually demonstrates how the Heart of Joy is working through displays of color on the wheels: acceleration is indicated in green, energy recuperation in blue, and braking using the friction brakes in orange.

Four totally new superbrains will power the BMW of the future. These high-performance computers cleverly combine various elements that previously ran separately. BMW developed the Heart of Joy superbrain 100% in-house. It allows four important control units to be brought together within a single high-performance computer.

Another three superbrains are responsible for features such as automated driving, infotainment and basic functions such as climate control and comfort-enhancing systems, vehicle access, and interior and exterior lighting.

BMW Vision Driving Experience

VIDEOS:

Interesting as it's coming w Recaro carbon seats. They are comfy.

Bit late to the game at the end of the the electric evolution and return to combustion motors. Car looks very nice, nice design great angles.

Will it ever come to the USA w the new Trump tarrifs? Probably not.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by M_Torx

Didn't say anything but am going to have to agree 1000% ^ EVs 🔋just don't tickle the right spot or any spot lol

They sell devices that can tickle that spot for you. They won’t cost your more than $100 too.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Honestly… That’s uncalled for…Are you able to contradict him in a different way?

Anyway, have a look:
Arthur Firstenberg - The Invisible Rainbow
Robert O. Becker - The Body Electric
Sander Funneman - Electric Ecosystem
B. Blake Levitt - Electromagnetic Fields
Martin Blank - Overpowered

When someone says inane things full of conspiracies and denialism, reasoned responses are unnecessary and a waste of resources.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by SexyRoger

Interesting as it's coming w Recaro carbon seats. They are comfy.

Bit late to the game at the end of the the electric evolution and return to combustion motors. Car looks very nice, nice design great angles.

Will it ever come to the USA w the new Trump tarrifs? Probably not.

I suppose America could get stuck in time like North Korea or Cuba, while the rest of the world moves on to the future. But I doubt it.

We will have EVs. But they won’t be made by US companies, because they will have failed to evolve and become uncompetitive. I suppose they could be bailed out, again, but it will be due to US policy failures.

[M_Torx]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

I suppose America could get stuck in time like North Korea or Cuba, while the rest of the world moves on to the future. But I doubt it.

We will have EVs. But they won’t be made by US companies, because they will have failed to evolve and become uncompetitive. I suppose they could be bailed out, again, but it will be due to US policy failures.

think a lot of sports car owners would love to get stuck in time...the good old days with hydraulic racks and NA V8 and V10s

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by M_Torx

think a lot of sports car owners would love to get stuck in time...the good old days with hydraulic racks and NA V8 and V10s

They can keep what they have - neither the owners or their cars will last forever.

[cfm56d7b]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

So I'm not worried about the looks.

It's a test mule. More interesting is the fact that one computer controls everything instead of different ECUs controlling braking, engine, steering, etc.

This means that passing parameters from one function to another is on the order of 100-1000x faster since the parameter lives in memory and does not need multiple I/On operations.

So DSC, braking, etc can be monitored and manipulated faster than anything BMW has now.

I'm interested in the drivetrain. Not sure if I'll buy one. I have an i4 and don't see myself swapping it for a new EV in a couple of years.

Also not concerned about how a test vehicle appears in the video.

This video is an excellent reminder that the era of practically unlimited torque vectoring envelope (limited only by mechanical constraints) has arrived.

The final product will be detuned of course to ensure that the average driver doesn't contribute to climate change by inadvertently flattening the nearby row of trees when taking a tight turn.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

When someone says inane things full of conspiracies and denialism, reasoned responses are unnecessary and a waste of resources.

He has an opinion. your post is also an opinion.

[M_Torx]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

They can keep what they have - neither the owners or their cars will last forever.

cars live on owner to owner lots of E30s still ripping around and OG Supras Dart Machinery made a 2JZ block would say S65 is just as legendary all we need is a cast block bet one shows up on market soon enough

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by M_Torx

think a lot of sports car owners would love to get stuck in time...the good old days with hydraulic racks and NA V8 and V10s

💯

Have friends with old BMWs, they’re a step back in time just for the steering feel. Picking up a manual BGTS4.0 for the NA before they kill it off and hope to hand it down to my daughters one day.

[brianeck]

Honestly the front end is cool. Style wise the exterior cues are pretty dope. I like the angles - i find g82 to be too round for a coupe (Mitsubishi eclipse 90s round). Nothing wrong with sharp lines. The headlights are cool, very different. . . I don't dislike the retroish grill. The interior is straight trash though. It looks like most reviews considered idrive 9 a substantial downgrade for usability for all the reasons us angry purists are complaining about too. I don't think this new panoramic thing is going to last. Its not just bmw the feedback is pretty much across all brands. All one manufacturer has to do to win our hearts is keep buttons longer than everyone else. Mercedes hopefully taught everyone a lesson with the c63 - I'm all for hybrid powertrains especially on the mild side when they dont add 2000 pounds, and EVs definitely have a huge place in the world. The design cues of every single car's interior don't have to be exactly the same though. . . I can really get behind this new sharp lines exterior styling if I don't get forcefed another giant ipad.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

He has an opinion. your post is also an opinion.

Climate denialism is an opinion. Saying it’s a hoax is flat out false.

Climate change is a fact.

There’s no reason to waste energy arguing with idiots who refuse to accept reality.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Climate denialism is an opinion.

Climate change is a fact.

There’s no reason to waste energy arguing with idiots who refuse to accept reality.

Luis has all The Science, kids.

You denialists.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

He has an opinion. your post is also an opinion.

False equivalency.

There is opinion, then there is batshit crazy idiotic conspiracy theories.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

False equivalency.

There is opinion, then there is batshit crazy idiotic conspiracy theories.

This part.

[R0LL0T0MASI]

I’m pretty into this. Not gonna lie. And I didn’t think I would be.