E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Wash, Wax, Detailing and Cosmetic protection/repairs > Swirl Marks



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-11-2006, 09:36 AM   #1
BlackLemon
Lieutenant
BlackLemon's Avatar
Canada
37
Rep
401
Posts

Drives: 13-750i, 15-Hurc., 14 X5 50i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Swirl Marks

I have a Saphire Black e90, and i have yet to hand wash it, is there anything i can use to prevent swirl marks when washing?
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2006, 09:43 AM   #2
shimshimhada
Brigadier General
shimshimhada's Avatar
United_States
502
Rep
4,838
Posts

Drives: Portal
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Portal

iTrader: (2)

Quality of the mitt and technique is your best preventive against swirl marks. Check out the Detailing section.
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2006, 09:44 AM   #3
picus
Brigadier General
picus's Avatar
Canada
127
Rep
4,172
Posts

Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto, ON

iTrader: (0)

http://www.detailedimage.com/store/h...php?p=washdry2

http://autopia-carcare.com/inf-wash.html

As David mentioned, technique and tools with regard to washing are by far the most important part of maintaining a swirl free finish.
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2006, 11:11 AM   #4
xG35c
Lieutenant
43
Rep
433
Posts

Drives: 330i
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

The first time I washed my Deep Green 330i was on a cool day in direct sunlight so I could carefully inspect the new finish. I washed the car with a sheepskin mitt and just a bit of car wash soap for lubrication, keeping the mitt well rinsed. After the wash, I was very impressed with the factory finish on the car, nearly flawless with NO "factory installed" swirls, there was some minor orange peel in the clearcoat that the "lunatic fringe" would probably start wet sanding, but for a daily driver overall it looked amazing.

I then started my normal drying process first using my soft squeege tool. After a few gentle swips I could see that it was leaving minute, but visible in the direct sunlight, scratches on the finish! This was surprising since I'd used this technique for years on other, generally light colored finishes. But on DG, there was no doubt it was doing damage. I switched to my well rinsed synthetic shammy and finished the job.

5 months and many handwashes later, the finish still looks great of course, but swirls are starting to appear under direct sunlight. I'm not sure I could improve my washing process, but I still feel that dragging ANYTHING across the paint to dry it is probably not a good idea. If I was fanatical about it, I'd look into one of those de-mineralization water filters, that allow the water to evaporate without residue. A final touchup with a soft cotton cloth and a spray detailer and this would seem to me to be the way to keep the finish perfect the longest.
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2006, 05:19 PM   #5
BlackLemon
Lieutenant
BlackLemon's Avatar
Canada
37
Rep
401
Posts

Drives: 13-750i, 15-Hurc., 14 X5 50i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

^^^ thanks guys, I think ill just stil to the touchless car washes.
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2006, 08:32 PM   #6
B2Blain
Enlisted Member
B2Blain's Avatar
2
Rep
38
Posts

Drives: Working
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hawaii

iTrader: (0)

I am still waiting on the arrival of my Black Sapphire 530i and am still contemplating how best to care for the car.

I have decided to use the Zaino process, but was wondering what impact that Zaino's sealent line had on the issue of swirls. Does it have any impact on swirls.
__________________


530i/Black Sapphire Metallic/Black Dakota Leather/Anthracite Maple Trim/Premium/Sport/Steptronic/Navigation/PDC/Comfort Access/Premium Sound


Ordered: 7/6/06
Scheduled for Production: 7/7/08
In Production: 7/7/06
In Body Shop: 7/12/06
In Paint Shop: 7/13/06
Assembly Started: 7/14/06
Assembly/Finish/Quality Check: 7/19/06
Production Completed: 7/20/06
Dispatched to Port of Exit: 7/24/06
Departed Bremerhaven on the Anna: 8/2/06
Arrived at Port Hueneme: 8/24/06
Arrived at dealer: 8/29/06

Appreciate 0
      09-16-2006, 11:36 AM   #7
Gripster
Captain
Gripster's Avatar
United_States
156
Rep
981
Posts

Drives: E93 M3
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2013 BMW M3  [0.00]
Z5 is supposed to help mask existing swirls, but I think the most important factor with using Zaino is the care it forces you to take while washing the car.

Before applying Zaino, I never really paid attention to quality of towels and applicators. I bought my Zaino through www.lazaino.com. They gave me lots of really good advice on avoiding swirls and actually supplied a four page booklet with detailing tips for best results.
__________________
2013 M3 (E93) - ZPP/ZCW/DCT
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/image.php?u=26275&type=sigpic&dateline=1208140506
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:39 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST