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      02-07-2009, 06:53 AM   #1
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Quick B/t query

Hi, just a quick dumb query - posted originally in the in the Audio/Video Bluetooth section, but thought UK section might give me an answer:

Had to take the hinged floor/trap-door out of my boot this morning to dust off a load of bloody snow that slid in when i opened it, and upon putting it back in noticed a silver box/unit mounted further back toward the rear seat.
Now my car has the (UK) "hifi" speaker upgrade with additional amp, which initially I thought this might be, but it has the bluetooth symbol on the label, amongst other stuff (and it was dark and wet so I didn't want to clamber in and read the rest).
My car doesn't have bluetooth option, so does anyone know what this is? or is it simply an amp that has bluetooth compatability?
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Hmmm, that's where my bluetooth box is, are you sure that's the amp and not BT?
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I've got Bluetooth. Must go out and have a look and see if i've got one
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Any chance of a pic of it?
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TMP - I'm not totally sure it IS the amp to be honest - i DIDN'T spec B/T with the car but DID spec Hi-Fi Louspeaker upgrade. I wouldn't know where either were located, but assumed it would be the amp, as I hadn't ordered B/T, although was quite surprised to see the B/T logo on something.....
My car was ordered very late to try and snag one of the final "Editions" upgrades before they finished, and I was surprised it was only 4 weeks for delivery - could have understood it if I had gone for something already built (as might be expected with a limited run of specials - "that's the spec sir"), but I was able to order a few "rarely" picked options/combination - like Lemon for the Dakota leather with S/G as the exterior colour, and virtually no-one goes for the Hi-Fi Loudspeaker option apparently - either they're happy with the standard offering (and perhaps completely deaf) or shell out big money on the Logic 7 system.

I'd be well-chuffed if the "mystery box" turned out to be a B/T module (as presumably the work & cost involved of "finishing off the install" would be much less, but surely that's not likely? but then why would merely an "amp" carry the B/T logo?

Will try and upload a pic tonight when I get in.
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Winco - Is the box on the right hand side (as you look into the boot), if it is and there's a Bluetooth symbol on it, then IIRC this IS the Bluetooth option box. I notice you have 6FL option, isn't this the USB interface option? I believe that the USB interface and Bluetooth interface share the same box.

It might be worth trying to find a friendly BMW Tech and have your car plugged into the BMW diagnosics box...

Take a photo of the unit and post it up so I can have a better look
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Looked at mine. The box is on the right of the boot, but no Bluetooth symbol on it even though i have bluetooth
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Hi, just a quick dumb query - posted originally in the in the Audio/Video Bluetooth section, but thought UK section might give me an answer:

Had to take the hinged floor/trap-door out of my boot this morning to dust off a load of bloody snow that slid in when i opened it, and upon putting it back in noticed a silver box/unit mounted further back toward the rear seat.
Now my car has the (UK) "hifi" speaker upgrade with additional amp, which initially I thought this might be, but it has the bluetooth symbol on the label, amongst other stuff (and it was dark and wet so I didn't want to clamber in and read the rest).
My car doesn't have bluetooth option, so does anyone know what this is? or is it simply an amp that has bluetooth compatability?
I note that your car doesn't have Satnav Professional, but it has the 6FL USB option. Therefore by deduction that module you have seen is the Telematics control unit (or MULF) which incorporates the USB hub controller for the 6FL option. This MULF unit is part number 84109187625, and the unit also incorporates the main guts of the Bluetooth system. What it will be lacking is the bluetooth antenna, cradle, charging point, and programming. To get all the bits necessary, you need to order retrofit kit part number 84640398228 and have your dealer code your car for bluetooth (assuming you have no navigation, no voice control, and just the standard BMW Professional Radio with USB)
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Looked at mine. The box is on the right of the boot, but no Bluetooth symbol on it even though i have bluetooth
If you have Satnav Pro, then the bluetooth module is built into the head unit, and not in the telematics control unit in the boot
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If you have Satnav Pro, then the bluetooth module is built into the head unit, and not in the telematics control unit in the boot
No sat nav either, maybe the stickers just come off
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If you have Satnav Pro, then the bluetooth module is built into the head unit, and not in the telematics control unit in the boot

Do you mean to say that since I have Satnav Pro getting bluetooth is a matter of a software update?
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Thanks E92Fan,
Sounds handy that the USB hub controller also has some of the B/T gubbins required. Will price up the parts required and labour.

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Do you mean to say that since I have Satnav Pro getting bluetooth is a matter of a software update?
I've never figured out why bluetooth was so expensive. On the E46, the BT box was about 130mm x 100mm x 60mm yet the BT device itself is no more than 20mm x 10mm x 5mm.

I wouldn't be surprised if BMW fitted the BT hardware into all Prof Nav Systems and then just charged to remove the software supression.
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