[runthis]

Cool, I'll just Took my Procede to take the car in to the dealer,( my clutch pedal stuck to the ground, and I could put the car into gear) I'll wait til I get this update to put it back in... and Idea when it'll be available?

[NM_BMW]

+1

[CarveOut]

Now, that's good news. Certainly worth an update!

I understand the Procede software doesn't show the error messages. Does it delete just engine related codes or everything? I am asking because I assume that most people would like to see the error messages before deleting as codes are important for diagnosis. I already ordered the BT tool and couldn't care less, this is just for clarification.

I'm not sure whether there is a limited # of code deletes or even a counter. Maybe someone can shed a light on this too.

However, excellent job!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by CarveOut

Now, that's good news. Certainly worth an update!

I understand the Procede software doesn't show the error messages. Does it delete just engine related codes or everything? I am asking because I assume that most people would like to see the error messages before deleting as codes are important for diagnosis. I already ordered the BT tool and couldn't care less, this is just for clarification.

I'm not sure whether there is a limited # of code deletes or even a counter. Maybe someone can shed a light on this too.

However, excellent job!

The first function will be a simple code erase feature primarily so that customers can run whatever map they want to without dealing with tuner code triggering and the resultant warranty/dealership implications. Basically a convenience item more than anything else.

But with functional CANbus integration, the next step is going to be enhanced data polling/logging. Which which basically address a piggybacks shortcoming of only being able to read data available from its limited number of input. And with all the new input data (ignition advance, coolant/oil temps, actual throttle angle, calculated cat temp, ignition advance, etc,.) we'll be able to implement features/maps that could otherwise be implemented. Things like auto-tuning, smart valet, warm-up maps, etc,. We should also be able to read codes. But we don't expect to provide anything close to the diagnostic functionality of the BavTech software. That's well beyond the scope of our goals. But for basic diagnostic functions, the PROcede should have you covered.

And we're also going to release source code for the user software so third party software developers can build custom digital dash/viewing/logging software

Shiv

[vase330]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The first function will be a simple code erase feature primarily so that customers can run whatever map they want to without dealing with tuner code triggering and the resultant warranty/dealership implications. Basically a convenience item more than anything else.

But with functional CANbus integration, the next step is going to be enhanced data polling/logging. Which which basically address a piggybacks shortcoming of only being able to read data available from its limited number of input. And with all the new input data (ignition advance, coolant/oil temps, actual throttle angle, calculated cat temp, ignition advance, etc,.) we'll be able to implement features/maps that could otherwise be implemented. Things like auto-tuning, smart valet, warm-up maps, etc,. We should also be able to read codes. But we don't expect to provide anything close to the diagnostic functionality of the BavTech software. That's well beyond the scope of our goals. But for basic diagnostic functions, the PROcede should have you covered.

And we're also going to release source code for the user software so third party software developers can build custom digital dash/viewing/logging software

Shiv

When I wanted a pistol, I bought a berreta 92 FS, not only because it was sleek and felt good, but I liked the safety mechanism. Point being safety is there for a reason. And while I am not intending to put in in my pant pocket and wind up blowing off my assets, I also don't trust 100% there will never be an accident... I think you doing this is a kin to selling a berreta with no safety. Somebody going to do something stupid. I think some people need help protecting themselves from well, themselves! I see how people constantly want to run the hottest maps regardless and it is worrisome. All it would take is one verifiably blown engine that had the PROCede in it, for your reputation to go south really fast. I'd make sure there was enough self preservation measures built in, so if Joe Schmoe wants to run a race map on 91 gas, running 17psi, then the PROCede would be smart enough to refuse to perform, and maybe even take a bit off the table to discourage that behavior.

Call it PROCede Tuning Nannies...

[Ramos]

I agree, I am always worried about running the wrong map by accident.. Call me paranoid but having nannies built in is a good idea for peace of mind

[OpenFlash]

When I say "what map the customer wants", I'm mostly referring to nonDoomsday vs Doomsday maps. With a mechanism in place to clear tuner manipulation codes, customers are no longer constrained by the roadblocks implemented by BMW, both current and future. Simple as that. With no land mines to tiptoe around, the better the tunes will be.

Plus, with the ability to recognize now (courtesy of CANbus integration), we'll make it pretty darn difficult for a user to do something really outlandish/dangerous. That's always been our primary focus from the start (limited user adjustable ranges, boost limits, wg dc limits, leanrun triggers, etc,.)

Shiv

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by vase330

if Joe Schmoe wants to run a race map on 91 gas, running 17psi, then the PROCede would be smart enough to refuse to perform, and maybe even take a bit off the table to discourage that behavior.

Call it PROCede Tuning Nannies...

Where's Hotrod when you need him!

[pheller]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

But for now, CANbus integration features are #1 priority.

One thing to note, Shiv, if you haven't already done so -- You might look into ECE certification for the Procede.

I was involved with another project which did only data acquisition on the Powertrain CAN, and our Lawyers required that we have circuitry in place to prevent transmission on this network *OR* get an "e mark" from TÜV.

Keep up the good work!

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by vase330

When I wanted a pistol, I bought a berreta 92 FS, not only because it was sleek and felt good, but I liked the safety mechanism. Point being safety is there for a reason. And while I am not intending to put in in my pant pocket and wind up blowing off my assets, I also don't trust 100% there will never be an accident... I think you doing this is a kin to selling a berreta with no safety. Somebody going to do something stupid. I think some people need help protecting themselves from well, themselves! I see how people constantly want to run the hottest maps regardless and it is worrisome. All it would take is one verifiably blown engine that had the PROCede in it, for your reputation to go south really fast. I'd make sure there was enough self preservation measures built in, so if Joe Schmoe wants to run a race map on 91 gas, running 17psi, then the PROCede would be smart enough to refuse to perform, and maybe even take a bit off the table to discourage that behavior.

Call it PROCede Tuning Nannies...

Glocks (19,22,26) have a safety, it's called the trigger

[NM_BMW]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Glocks (19,22,26) have a safety, it's called the trigger

Your missing some glocks there buddy. My glock 23 and all glocks have the trigger safety. Plus, if you need to use it why mess around with a physical safety switch when you can just pull the trigger.

[JoeyFiasco]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

And we're also going to release source code for the user software so third party software developers can build custom digital dash/viewing/logging software

Shiv

[jeho]

any eta on the first release of these new features shiv? such as the code resets

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by J86

any eta on the first release of these new features shiv? such as the code resets

The code reset feature will come first and it is currently in development right now. There are also some software front end changes that we have to make. So a bit too early for an ETA. But soon. Should have an ETA within a week.

Shiv