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      05-15-2009, 11:54 AM   #1
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Heel Toe Driving Tips - tyvm Spring Mountain Mortorsport Ranch

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      05-15-2009, 01:11 PM   #2
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EDIT: are you drooling over that pedal setup for your video games *ahem* "sims" excuse me
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      05-17-2009, 03:14 AM   #3
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My feet are too narrow and I couldn't find a comfortable position for heel and toe-ing in the E90. I ended up getting a set of Ultimate Pedals with the accelerator pedal extension. Works much better now for me.
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      05-17-2009, 04:10 PM   #4
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My feet are too narrow and I couldn't find a comfortable position for heel and toe-ing in the E90. I ended up getting a set of Ultimate Pedals with the accelerator pedal extension. Works much better now for me.
Try alternates of either one of these versions:

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showpost...4&postcount=12

The pedals in the BMW is placed closer together than any other make's pedal I've ever driven for easy heel-toe. Since it's bottom hinged it might be easier to try the non-traditional heel-toe techniques.
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      05-17-2009, 05:32 PM   #5
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Try alternates of either one of these versions:

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showpost...4&postcount=12

The pedals in the BMW is placed closer together than any other make's pedal I've ever driven for easy heel-toe. Since it's bottom hinged it might be easier to try the non-traditional heel-toe techniques.
I'm OK with both methods, and on the BMW the second one is a bit better, but I still miss the accelerator pedal often in your second drawing because my foot is narrow enough to fall right in between the brake and accel pedals. It's better with bigger shoes but with pilotis or speedcats that I take to the track they fall right in between.

Adding a picture... here's my pedal setup with the ultimate pedals extension:
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did you slap grip tape on the pedals brian?
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      05-18-2009, 04:33 AM   #7
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Actually I got these for my racing sims:

http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_us...0a68c10e6960a6

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Also, thanks for the link! I am still trying to learn how to drive stick, and I am sure this will come in handy for practice on the track out here.
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did you slap grip tape on the pedals brian?
Yeah. Pretty much standard on my cars now. Had them on every car I own that I will ever track or autoX in the rain. They grip wet or dry, on any shoe and so far $10 has lasted me like 3 cars!
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Try alternates of either one of these versions
nice diagram! I'm definitely the 'alternate'/'heel-side of foot' kind of person. the heel of my shoe hits the transmission tunnel if i try to do the traditional method
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I'm OK with both methods, and on the BMW the second one is a bit better, but I still miss the accelerator pedal often in your second drawing because my foot is narrow enough to fall right in between the brake and accel pedals. It's better with bigger shoes but with pilotis or speedcats that I take to the track they fall right in between.

Adding a picture... here's my pedal setup with the ultimate pedals extension:
The pedals on the 3 series are very close together, don't think they could be any closer... If your foot is falling between them, it's not that your foot is too narrow, it's that you are placing your foot too far on the brake.. You need to use less of your foot on the brake then you won't have this problem

I'm sure your setup is effective especially in the rain but sorry to tell you it looks awful
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The pedals on the 3 series are very close together, don't think they could be any closer... If your foot is falling between them, it's not that your foot is too narrow, it's that you are placing your foot too far on the brake.. You need to use less of your foot on the brake then you won't have this problem

I'm sure your setup is effective especially in the rain but sorry to tell you it looks awful
Must be then, I'm comfortable with this setup now as I've had it for about 8 months or so now. During the first year I just wasn't having a good time with heel / toe.

Gotta agree with it looking awful though... but then again I'm not too worried about aesthetics in the foot well compared to the grip.
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Sweet.. whatever works for you... gotta love the feeling when you nail that heel and toe
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Sweet.. whatever works for you... gotta love the feeling when you nail that heel and toe
I got a look yesterday when I h/t'd 6-3-2-1.

She was like: "really? heel toe into first?" I told her "you're jealous".
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brian pm me where to get these grips. i need them for my e30. i'll forget to check this thread so pm me. haha thanks
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I can finally contort my ankle to heel-toe in the traditional style.

But I think I walk funny now.
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