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      02-12-2009, 05:56 PM   #1
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as fastest as possible 335i coupe

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i am an m5 and m3 owner but my friend has a 2008 335i coupe and it is the frist BMW he own after a lexus gs300 and sl55 amg and now
he asked me that he want to make this 335 as fast as possible and he is ready to buy every thing its need for this project and i told him i have no good experience with the factory boosted bmw engines and lets ask some 335 owners in this forum soi need ur help please in this what we have to do what is in the market now for the 335 and what is the best companies and thanks for all
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Some guys running tunes only are running in the high 11s. That is on race gas and drag radials. over 400 rwhp is not hard at all.

Add in some catless downpipes, exhaust, larger intercooler and intake all are available.

Go to the Turbo forum.
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Yep, a piggyback tune, DPs, DCI (intake), and race gas are all that's needed to get into the low 12's (high 11's w/ DRs); only other things that would help are an LSD and of course upgraded turbos.
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      02-13-2009, 01:53 PM   #5
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Just wait a little while. VK Motorwerks, ASR Engineering and AMS are all in the final stages of developing a full turbo upgrade...
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Just wait a little while. VK Motorwerks, ASR Engineering and AMS are all in the final stages of developing a full turbo upgrade...
Final stages... so, what, does that mean they're only 2 (more) years away?
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Why didn't your buddy just buy an M3? Probably come out cheaper when you factor in all the mods.
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Yep, a piggyback tune, DPs, DCI (intake), and race gas are all that's needed to get into the low 12's (high 11's w/ DRs); only other things that would help are an LSD and of course upgraded turbos.
Are you kidding? Tune-only (albeit very heavy tune aka V3/JB3) puts you in the low 12's. Tune + everything else you mentioned puts you in the mid-high 11's.
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how reliable are these 335's with all these mods - do you guys ever blow any motors? there is no warranty after mods are done right?
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      02-13-2009, 09:12 PM   #14
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Correct, warranty is history unless you go with the Dinan tune from what I understand. Mine is stock so maybe somebody else can give you more/better info than me.
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how reliable are these 335's with all these mods - do you guys ever blow any motors? there is no warranty after mods are done right?
If you decide to go to the dealer for warranty work with mods installed on your car, then yes, it is very likely your warranty can be voided.
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      02-14-2009, 12:18 PM   #17
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Why didn't your buddy just buy an M3? Probably come out cheaper when you factor in all the mods.
simple, w/ minor mods the 335 is faster than the M3, thats documented.

If he is only worried about straight line speed the 335 is the clear winner right now. The M3 has f/i coming out, but you will spend even more than a 335 turbo upgrade it looks like.
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Are you kidding? Tune-only (albeit very heavy tune aka V3/JB3) puts you in the low 12's. Tune + everything else you mentioned puts you in the mid-high 11's.
FYI -- the average tuned 335i (just tune or tune/intake) runs mid 12's, depending on the track. Nobody has run mid 11's yet...high 11's with most/all possible mods + DRs, race map and race gas. I still think hotrod182 is an exception...he is so good at drag racing. Anyway, yes high 11's and low 12's atre very possible with just a tune and a couple other minor mods. The DPs seem to gain a decent amount of HP/TQ with a tune.
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OP - tell your friend to reduce as much as weight as possible, strip interior, get light weight wheels, aggressive tunes + upgraded turbos, upgraded intercooler, oil cooler, upgraded turbos, dual cone intakes, scoops, exhausts, down pipes. Those are the main things. If you're a REAL enthusiasts, cams/heads/pistons (all the engine work) afaik...someone else can chime in
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hi every body
i am an m5 and m3 owner but my friend has a 2008 335i coupe and it is the frist BMW he own after a lexus gs300 and sl55 amg and now
he asked me that he want to make this 335 as fast as possible and he is ready to buy every thing its need for this project and i told him i have no good experience with the factory boosted bmw engines and lets ask some 335 owners in this forum soi need ur help please in this what we have to do what is in the market now for the 335 and what is the best companies and thanks for all
Our ASR TT upgrade is completed and has been on our shop car for over a week now with no issues. At this point the car is completely bone stock other than the turbo upgrades. We will begin programming next for max gains.
These upgrades are twin GT Garrett Ballbearing turbos that flow 26lbs/min vs stock turbos at 13lbs/min. This kit will bolt on just like the factory turbos with no modifications involved at all. We will be taking orders once the tuning is complete. If you have further questions you can pm us.
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      02-16-2009, 10:59 AM   #21
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Our ASR TT upgrade is completed and has been on our shop car for over a week now with no issues. At this point the car is completely bone stock other than the turbo upgrades. We will begin programming next for max gains.
These upgrades are twin GT Garrett Ballbearing turbos that flow 26lbs/min vs stock turbos at 13lbs/min. This kit will bolt on just like the factory turbos with no modifications involved at all. We will be taking orders once the tuning is complete. If you have further questions you can pm us.
Interesting! How is your car running compared to stock? Is it behaving just like stock and you turbos are spinning half of the normal RPM of the stock turbos?

What about lag?
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Interesting! How is your car running compared to stock? Is it behaving just like stock and you turbos are spinning half of the normal RPM of the stock turbos?

What about lag?
The power is much more linear than stock turbos and carries all the way to the redline. The stock turbos give e quick burst of power early in the powerband and drop off fairly hard at the upper rpm's, The lag is virtually unchanged since these are BB's, but on the average it's only a few hundred rpm difference. Eventhough, we can definitely feel a big difference in power delivery, it is still being held back by the factory DME. The DME is used to seeing X amount of airflow volume at X amount of boost. Now that the airflow volume has increased exponentially at the same boost, the DME is adjusting throttle angles to reduce the intake of that volume. Stay tuned for updates once tuning is complete.
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