[XPO186]

Sorry to see you go man...

Hit them both up.

[stimpy]

And this wasn't noticed on the third revision after several flights to Taiwan or whereever?

[TT3 iN NyC]

Just go OEM, have them modified, and be done with it. This thread is already 14 pages long. The other one that was closed gone up to 50+ I think. Almost 10 months has gone by and people still didn't get their skirts...

[ThorsHammer]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

Thanks. I'm out. Do you think I should PM Frank or Pat. Which one will get me my refund fastest?

Thanks. It is what it is.

The clock is ticking. We'll see how long it takes them to acknowledge and process my refund. I'm not holding my breath.

[stimpy]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

Thanks. It is what it is.

The clock is ticking. We'll see how long it takes them to acknowledge and process my refund. I'm not holding my breath.

"I never got your PM - please send it again"

[ThorsHammer]

Originally Posted by stimpy

"I never got your PM - please send it again"

I'm sure you're right.

[XPO186]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

Thanks. It is what it is.

The clock is ticking. We'll see how long it takes them to acknowledge and process my refund. I'm not holding my breath.

Hey man, it's completely understandable.

I wouldn't hold my breath either... I think the main reason I ended up getting my side skirts first was because i asked for my refund so close to shipment time.

Good luck on your hunt for side skirts!

[cn555ic]

On version two the front was not flushed also...all that was needed was to trim the front tabs and a little of the width where the tabs are flushed with the sideskirt...a handy dremel took me two minutes to make both sides flushed in the front....I have alot of experience since I was one of the first to get the original set...The problem with the version 2 skirts are the rears, and if they fixed the rear part with Version 3, the front part is a joke to get it flushed, and to fix this problem before delivery to the other people that were promised delivery last week, I wouldn't think it will take M-force that much effort to get it done because like I said I know what needs to be done because I had to do it with the version 2!!!...That being said, I am sure they will go out soon, so at least give Pat some props for meeting up with the XPO186 to get to the bottom of it....I am also patiently waiting for my replacements because my rear part of the skirt keeps popping out, but what can you do....the man is trying to make it perfect...those of you who want refunds, wait it out a little longer at least another week to see whats up...like I said this problem in the front requires and takes very little effort...I just wished they sent the first version 3 to me, I would have those suckers on perfectly!!!

[Zimo]

When will I be getting my return label so I can ship back the 2nd version of the skirt and refund my money. It doesn't help if you just say SEND THEM BACK TO US WITH THE RETURN LABEL and don't give me the dam label 5 days now. Come on jesus.

[shiggy]

Originally Posted by c;n555ic5419406

On version two the front was not flushed also...all that was needed was to trim the front tabs and a little of the width where the tabs are flushed with the sideskirt...a handy dremel took me two minutes to make both sides flushed in the front....I have alot of experience since I was one of the first to get the original set...The problem with the version 2 skirts are the rears, and if they fixed the rear part with Version 3, the front part is a joke to get it flushed, and to fix this problem before delivery to the other people that were promised delivery last week, I wouldn't think it will take M-force that much effort to get it done because like I said I know what needs to be done because I had to do it with the version 2!!!...That being said, I am sure they will go out soon, so at least give Pat some props for meeting up with the XPO186 to get to the bottom of it....I am also patiently waiting for my replacements because my rear part of the skirt keeps popping out, but what can you do....the man is trying to make it perfect...those of you who want refunds, wait it out a little longer at least another week to see whats up...like I said this problem in the front requires and takes very little effort...I just wished they sent the first version 3 to me, I would have those suckers on perfectly!!!

me thinks XPO186 and cn555ic are really Frank and Mach!!
This whole skirt gong show will go down as the BIGGEST EPIC FAIL of all time!
Im getting pissed reading all the lame excuses from Mforce....I just cant imagine what the guys are going through that dished out money to these guys!...what a shitty way of doing business.....BRUTAL!

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiggy

me thinks XPO186 and cn555ic are really Frank and Mach!!
This whole skirt gong show will go down as the BIGGEST EPIC FAIL of all time!
Im getting pissed reading all the lame excuses from Mforce....I just cant imagine what the guys are going through that dished out money to these guys!...what a shitty way of doing business.....BRUTAL!

Well look at it this way....I have been waiting for over 10 months already to get a perfect set..I am pretty pissed off, don't get me wrong, but what is crying going to get me...Its not going to come any sooner....I understand and realize that M-force is a small and growing company and go through snags like this with products that are not delivered as promised....The only fact about it, that I do see them trying to make it the best as possible even though they have failed pretty bad at delivery of the product as promised...At this point I understand everyone frustrations, I am too frustrated because my version 2 sideskirts are so bad that I actually don't drive my car all that much because its embarrasing because on hard bumps the rear of the skirt pops off....I am too lazy to put the OEM ones back on, so I have no choice but to wait....I just wished they delivered me the version 3 even with the front not fitting, because with all my experience with these damn skirts, I would have those suckers fitting perfectly...For those of youwho are not familiar with their sideskirts problems as I have been, the front not being flushed is such a simple fix its ridiculous, and even if you received the skirts like that, you would understand what needs to be done to get it flushed....with that said I am sure Pat will have the ones waiting to be shipped worked out for all of you that will cry wolf if it doesn't fit perfectly...Going through this for the last 10 months, I see that every bases has to be covered and understand why PAT is delaying this till its 100%, god for bid if aftermarket part needed little tweaking!!!!!!!!!!
To Shiggy....you guess it right my other alias is Mach and Frank from M-force Design....how did you figure it out??

[Stinger]

I'm giving up on this vendor and product. I never ordered because I just waited to see how things would pan out and have been lurking on this thread and the prior one.

Why can't JleviSW or someone else produce a product like this but with better results? There seems to be a good level of demand for this modification. I would buy it in a second if all this drama wasn't going on.

Too bad, because they do look great on the 335i. Maybe I'll just find a body shop to modify the OEM M3 panels (how hard is that?) or I'll just go with my second option - Mtech sides from Tischer.

[ThorsHammer]

The issue is not the product challenges/problems. The issue is the sorry-ass, HORRIBLE lack of communication from these people. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't care if the final product ends up being 14k gold. Nothing excuses their blatant disregard for keeping customers informed in an accurate and consistent way...especially the ones who have already paid in full.

They are a bunch of liars who make up fantastical stories about international flights and then disappear into the night, not to be heard from for weeks. Meanwhile, they're clearly online, posting on other threads, and conscientiously ignoring people who have given them over $500.

I will never buy anything from them, and anyone who supports them financially by purchasing their products is doing the community a disservice.

This is just shameful. I'd be embarrassed for anyone to actually know who I was if I were affiliated with ShamForce Design.

[B-Varise]

M-Force you need to get on here and give us an update. I'm starting to feel a bit uneasy about the way things are going. A no bullshit explanation because the fact of the matter is you have our money. I've sat through the bs excuses figuring that you were just trying to buy more time. I'm sick of being lied to and so is everyone else on here.

You have the perfect opportunity to make things right and to give us the scoop on whats going on. Right now your company is showing a lack of integrity by continuing to make up excuses and to keep stringing us all along. We all know that the skirts weren't shipped and then pulled back from the shipping company because there was a small issue, you're obviously buying more time because something isn't complete yet. I would much rather have you say that the skirts aren't all completed and there's going to be a 3 month wait, then to keep feeding us all of these ridiculous stories.

Level with us and at least we will have an ounce of respect for your product, keep feeding us shit and I feel you will lose quite a bit of business.

[Psylight]

I too am quite disappointed.....I agree with Thor here, they have been terrible at communicating with paid customers....

BUT....what can you do? (get a refund...sure).....I Choose to wait....Ive waited 10 goddamn months, whats another month? The money has been transferred long ago anyway....so fuck it.....

[stimpy]

I'm surprised the admins haven't gotten involved in this one. Not that it's their fault - but I wouldn't let someone run their business like this on my forums.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Psylight

I too am quite disappointed.....I agree with Thor here, they have been terrible at communicating with paid customers....

BUT....what can you do? (get a refund...sure).....I Choose to wait....Ive waited 10 goddamn months, whats another month? The money has been transferred long ago anyway....so fuck it.....

lol....in a way thats how I feel about the whole matter...whats another couple of weeks at this point after waiting 10 months!

[Zimo]

I didn't mind the wait at first either, but after receiving defective products two times I asked for a refund. What I got instead was a promise that I was on the first batch of the 3rd version "in a couple weeks (been about 6 weeks now)". Now I seen other people receiving their skirts and got fedex tracking number and I still got nothing yet, so I PM'd them AGAIN and they said "well if you want I can put you on the next patch." Give me a god dam break and my dam tracking number to return the defective skirts.

[ThorsHammer]

Group Refund List, anyone?

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[ren]

+1

At the end it's just a set of side skirts.

Even though we have every right to get frustrated, I don't mind waiting.

Originally Posted by Psylight

I too am quite disappointed.....I agree with Thor here, they have been terrible at communicating with paid customers....

BUT....what can you do? (get a refund...sure).....I Choose to wait....Ive waited 10 goddamn months, whats another month? The money has been transferred long ago anyway....so fuck it.....

[joec500]

Originally Posted by erensf

+1

At the end it's just a set of side skirts.

Even though we have every right to get frustrated, I don't mind waiting.

2nd...I agree, I think it's the false promises that gets people upset....Just level with us....It's much better to under promise and over deliver then over promise and under deliver. I will continue to wait, as this mod will really round out my car. But the poor expectation setting has been a real let down.

[ThorsHammer]

Well, one day down, and no response to my refund request.

Worst.

Customer.

Service.

EVER.