[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Piggybacks will net you more hp since flash is limited by the boost ceiling of the DME. That's why everyone who has the hardware to support a lot of boost is stacking flash with a piggy.

What are the benefits of stacking flash and piggyback without running meth or ethanol mix? If there is any

[DuDai]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

What are the benefits of stacking flash and piggyback without running meth or ethanol mix? If there is any

With bigger/aftermarket turbos it solves fueling issues.

[DuDai]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

There is a couple stations in Ontario but seems like the west is getting shafted as usual

Does everyone live in Ontario though? According to them yes I suppose.

[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by DuDai

Does everyone live in Ontario though? According to them yes I suppose.

Yup that's how it is lol. Least you guys in AB have Petro 94 octane. Best we got in Sask is Huskey 94 octane which according to PTF guys is equivalent to 93 octane else where like the states.

[4doorbmwpower]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

I've been looking up info on meth kits etc trying to learn a bit more on it but the info is all over the place. From fires easily occurring, to needing a fail safe, some saying you don't need a fail safe etc. It intrigues me but need more info on it. Being in Canada I try and avoid paying the boarder charges and extra shipping from states so I but from n54 tuning and they only seem to have "bmw ww quick install kits" and the non-integrated for flash tuning.

everyone "knows a story" or "knows a guy" but honestly Meth is EXTREMELY safe. Granted all the bad rep given to things like NOS and Meth from the movies, is just a heavy misunderstanding of what your trying to actually do. Most of the time people run a Diluted 50/50 or 49/51 mix of meth water to make sure it is not flammable and don't sacrifice much gains for a complete peace of mind. i have dealt with 100% meth and haven't had an issue. I am upgrading my meth kit to a more "permanent" setup with SS lines and AN fittings and it will be even more safe than it already is. Do some research, personally i recommend a trunk mounted kit. I have a DIY on my install located in the DIY section. Did it all myself and JB4 again will be the easiest route becasue all you need is the FSB and you can control your meth via steering wheel. VERY easy. Auto flows when your throttle is pressed passed 80% and ramps up your boost according. Shit is great! like race gas at the flip of a switch.

[4doorbmwpower]

dont breath the fumes in directly, and dont purposly try to light Meth on fire... it burns invisible and IS dangerous if your stupid with it. (for the people that will take my "extremely safe" and push it to the limits....

[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by 4doorbmwpower

dont breath the fumes in directly, and dont purposly try to light Meth on fire... it burns invisible and IS dangerous if your stupid with it. (for the people that will take my "extremely safe" and push it to the limits....

Ya it does interest me. So it wouldn't work well with a flash? And what type/types of kit would you recommend?

[silver07335i]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

Ya it does interest me. So it wouldn't work well with a flash? And what type/types of kit would you recommend?

Aquamist HFS-4 Meth Kit is recommended by PTF to go along with their Cobb flash pro-tunes.
http://www.protuningfreaks.com/water...4-kit-bmw.html

[4doorbmwpower]

Honestly if i could do it over i would go with 100% devils own. look them up (alcohol-injection.com) I have a full BMS set and the only thing i am retaining when i do my upgrade to Devils own is the FSB. so its got JB4 integration. DO has amazing quality bulletproof parts with AN fittings and SS lines! the race tank is bar none and its very safe and very efficient.

[Snownsurf]

What is the difference between meth kits? How do those two mentioned compare with the one on n54tuning dot com? Burgers meth kit

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

What is the difference between meth kits? How do those two mentioned compare with the one on n54tuning dot com? Burgers meth kit

Meth kits should be purchased that match the tune you are running as it makes integration much simpler. The JB4 is a fantastic tune for meth, so if running JB4 you would want the BMS Meth kits, with the 2.3G integrated kit being the most popular paired with a CM10 nozzle.

Mike

[Snownsurf]

Alright guys I ended up going with the jb4 and VRSF dp's. Gotta pull the trigger on the dp's, went back and fourth lots but the power increase was too tempting and the jb4. Well I'm kind of getting tempted by the meth and it seems like the easiest integration vs going with cobb and meth. Thanks for the input guys!

[Snownsurf]

Had everything installed a couple days ago and gotta say I'm loving it it did smell a bit when I started it up the first time and had the windows rolled down idling while I was checking out the JB4 features. But it wasn't too bad. Sounded great, you could also here the DCI's. It feels like the dp's took away the turbo lag?

[andrew722]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

Had everything installed a couple days ago and gotta say I'm loving it it did smell a bit when I started it up the first time and had the windows rolled down idling while I was checking out the JB4 features. But it wasn't too bad. Sounded great, you could also here the DCI's. It feels like the dp's took away the turbo lag?

Congrats on the set up! I'm having my vrsf downpipes installed on Tuesday as well as a walnut blasting. I recently bought the cobb v3 from ptf with the etune hope everything works out for you!

[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by andrew722

Congrats on the set up! I'm having my vrsf downpipes installed on Tuesday as well as a walnut blasting. I recently bought the cobb v3 from ptf with the etune hope everything works out for you!

Thanks! You'll enjoy it. I switched from COBB to JB4 cause of adding meth in the future.

[andrew722]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

Thanks! You'll enjoy it. I switched from COBB to JB4 cause of adding meth in the future.

I like the thought of adding meth but rite now i am still getting to know the car maybe in the future ill add a JB4. I see your in canada too I'm in ontario , what are you running for fuel ? I've heard mixed reviews about petro canada 94 , I'm running shell 91 as of rite now.

[mike@x-ph.com]

i would get a Jb4 and run the BMS backend flash

[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

i would get a Jb4 and run the BMS backend flash

What does the BMS backend flash do?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

What does the BMS backend flash do?

The Jb4 is really good at controlling boost but unfortunately it does not control timing advance,fuel and Afr.
The backend flash does.
If you running high percentage of e85 the back end flash is a must.
If you are not running e85 the back end flash would decrease the timing advance allowing you to run more boost .

[Snownsurf]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The Jb4 is really good at controlling boost but unfortunately it does not control timing advance,fuel and Afr.
The backend flash does.
If you running high percentage of e85 the back end flash is a must.
If you are not running e85 the back end flash would decrease the timing advance allowing you to run more boost .

I'm not running e85 cause we don't have it in most of Canada. I don't really know much about timing and boost maybe dumb it down for me? pretty much what kind of benefit would I feel.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Snownsurf

I'm not running e85 cause we don't have it in most of Canada. I don't really know much about timing and boost maybe dumb it down for me? pretty much what kind of benefit would I feel.

The BMS flash for pump gas decrease the timing which allow the Jb4 to target more boost.
You will get more power if you run the BMS flash with the JB4.

[Dcara]

Originally Posted by derryck

I'd stay away from the OFT...support has fallen off the map. I can't even get Vishnu to respond to emails anymore...I'd stick with something that has some support in case you need it.

Same here