[Soni]

Originally Posted by Ado

I don't have a scan of it yet but will get it on here soon.

The results are:

HorsePower - 358.07

Torque - 414.53

GAS: Sunoco 94 Octane

Conditions:

66.02 F
29.37 in-Hg
Humidity: 19%
Correction: STD 1.01


I was just checking out some of the other dynos. I wonder why my HP is so damn low compared to some of the other guys?

There were two us of this morning who dynoed at the same dyno. It was a DynoJet btw. He even got lower numbers then me and he was on 98% as well.

We did do some data logging so we'll post those as well soon. The PSI was stable, did not even go above 14.1 or 14.2 can't remember.

Marvtec's #'s were

HP - 342
TQ - 370

Can't remember exactly but he can correct me if I'm wrong about his #'s.

You two went without me

BTW Shiv, do both of theirs figures look normal with the stock intake and exhaust?

[LACA335i]

Originally Posted by Ado

I don't have a scan of it yet but will get it on here soon.

The results are:

HorsePower - 358.07

Torque - 414.53

GAS: Sunoco 94 Octane

Conditions:

66.02 F
29.37 in-Hg
Humidity: 19%
Correction: STD 1.01


I was just checking out some of the other dynos. I wonder why my HP is so damn low compared to some of the other guys?

There were two us of this morning who dynoed at the same dyno. It was a DynoJet btw. He even got lower numbers then me and he was on 98% as well.

We did do some data logging so we'll post those as well soon. The PSI was stable, did not even go above 14.1 or 14.2 can't remember.

Marvtec's #'s were

HP - 342
TQ - 370

Can't remember exactly but he can correct me if I'm wrong about his #'s.

what kinda mode do u have in your car

[stillclaimndp]

Originally Posted by WilyB

Why don't you make 94% = 100 so that people who like to push the envelope know exactly that, they are pushing it?

If you run 95%, people will argue they thought they were still on the safe side. If you make it 101 or 102%, they will have a hard time arguing they did not realize.


Just my $0.02

-1, it's for people that want to run race gas. If an individual can afford a 335i and afford a PROcede (not to mention figure out how to install it), then they probably have the intelligence to use it properly. If not then either their parents bought it for them or they are a trust fund baby, if they are either of these, they do not have my sympathy anyway lol.

[revah2]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Correct. Do not run 98% with pump gas. Even your 94oct. You will get knock retard activity. You will probably see this in your dyno graphs as they will lack smoothness or repeatability.

What you need to run more than 95% is race gas. Plain and simple. 100oct is a good choice. Still, on an otherwise stock car, you'll still be limited to ~350-360whp due to intake restrictions. By simply using cone air filters (coming soon), your power will jump up to ~380whp. An exhaust will give you another 10whp or so.

Try to force power by raising User Torque is a bad idea. You will put undue stress on your turbos as well as induced knock activity. Which will lower power. The opposite effect of what you are trying to do.

This is why we suggest sticking to the 94% maximum on premium grade pump gas. It's safe and will result in good stable power. Same applies when you get an intake and exhaust. The max numbers will just be higher.

Shiv

PS. I'm reading about too many people running too higher of User Torque on pump gas and it is making me very nervous. Come on guys. Please be careful and follow the documentation.

You do realize that when i asked you if you could run 100% settings across the board on pump gas you replied "yes,safely" I'd look for the thread but ehhhh

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by revah2

You do realize that when i asked you if you could run 100% settings across the board on pump gas you replied "yes,safely" I'd look for the thread but ehhhh

Could you please find where I said that?
shiv

[chris b.]

could you be running 94% which is the max and not be boosting 15 lbs?

[Ado]

I'll be changing the settings to 95% until I can buy some race gas and store it at the office and at home that way i can fix it every time i fill up.... That's gonna suck...

[masssrt]

Originally Posted by Ado

I've never heard that info but thanks for sharing Shiv.

With regards to your comment about knock and smoothness of the curve on the graph: It's actually never been smoother before. I've used the same dyno every time on the same configurations. I'll upload the graph soon along with the data logs. We were also listening in for knock on 95% and 98% and have not heard anything. The guy that helped us out with all the stuff isn't new to turbos http://www.splitfireperformance.com/splitfire_high.html.

Thanks for your help.

Ado

Maybe the load on the street vs. a dynojet is different?

Nice numbers btw

[shenard]

Originally Posted by Ado

I'll be changing the settings to 95% until I can buy some race gas and store it at the office and at home that way i can fix it every time i fill up.... That's gonna suck...

You are asking for a blown engine!

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by revah2

You do realize that when i asked you if you could run 100% settings across the board on pump gas you replied "yes,safely" I'd look for the thread but ehhhh

I've seen you say this several times, also telling people its safe to run 100% on pump gas.

What gives revah2?

[chris b.]

whats up sniz? you see my posta bout being at 94%and not making 15psi? whats ur take on that? should i go further or leave it alone?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by chris b.

whats up sniz? you see my posta bout being at 94%and not making 15psi? whats ur take on that? should i go further or leave it alone?

Hey man,
yeah I'd leave it where you have it. I'm still not even seeing 14psi at 95% but I'm not going to push it past that. I'm still going to go ahead and pressure test my system, might do it tomorrow while my coilovers are being installed.

Is your car runningn well? Have you dynoed it?

[chris b.]

car runs great! really good. i was supposed to dyno yesterday but it got cancelled. hopefully ill get it done soo. at least i know im not the only one who is at the limit and not making 15psi

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by chris b.

car runs great! really good. i was supposed to dyno yesterday but it got cancelled. hopefully ill get it done soo. at least i know im not the only one who is at the limit and not making 15psi

How much where you guys boosting with V2.0.1?

[chris b.]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

How much where you guys boosting with V2.0.1?

i never had v 2.0.1. just got my v2 two weeks ago.

[cn555ic]

All those people that have the user torque set above 96 are at high altitudes...THe higher the altitude the lower the boost PSI...So if they showing less than the approved max psi at that altitude, why would it be dangerous to increase the torque values 96 or above if they are not seeing the same boost psi as people that are sea level running 93 octane??

[chris b.]

thats kinda what im saying. were not supposed to go over 15 psi right? so no matter what the user setting isnt that what were shooting for?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

All those people that have the user torque set above 96 are at high altitudes...THe higher the altitude the lower the boost PSI...So if they showing less than the approved max psi at that altitude, why would it be dangerous to increase the torque values 96 or above if they are not seeing the same boost psi as people that are sea level running 93 octane??

curious myself. I would like to know if the boost levels are the only value we need to watch using the V2.

your question could apply to those of us running at sea level and not seeing 14psi+.

[chris b.]

Originally Posted by Sniz

curious myself. I would like to know if the boost levels are the only value we need to watch using the V2.

your question could apply to those of us running at sea level and not seeing 14psi+.

i wish shiv whould chime in on this.....

[NPDAN]

I dont ever recall Shiv stating it's ok to run 100% tq on pump gas. He may have said somewhere that it's safe on 100+ octane

[LACA335i]

Originally Posted by NPDAN

I dont ever recall Shiv stating it's ok to run 100% tq on pump gas. He may have said somewhere that it's safe on 100+ octane

I agree . i recalled shiv said "100% torque would not be good for your engine. He is not recommend "

[cn555ic]

I am not saying running 100%, I am stating that i have heard 96% or above is not good on 93 octane, but if the determinate factor is the boost, if OP are not seeing the 15psi at 5500, why would it be harmful to the engine especially when the OP running 96 or higher is at high altitudes...Torque will be bad either way for the tranny but not the motor i think...The motor or turbos would be in danger if it exceeds the recommended 15psi...