[Poldav6]

I just wanted to add, that I also bought the MMP inlets and outlets. I am from the Czech Republic.. ordered the stuff on Sunday and on Tuesday I got delivery notice from DHL. On Wednesday, I had them in my hands.. Unbelievable. Now I am trying to persuade my indy to install them. As a bonus he cut deep his hand (fortunately not my car related, haha) so hope it will happen soon. Looking forward to it

[V8bait]

Originally Posted by Milan

It's called being realistic. Glad to know I have a follower though

Still no proof that outlets make any power....

You know I was thinking the same thing until I got a few cars on the dyno. There is probably a psi or two of pressure drop at max airflow on the stock pipes and when you are at that ragged edge it's measurable. I've seen the most gain over 6k rpm when things are truly maxed out, OP doesn't seem to be pulling as strong up top, maybe from the heat.

[jjbmuu]

Damn and to make it that much harder to decide on a near maxed out stock turbo set up or upgraded turbos.. These cars can be fairly quick even on stock turbos and something makes me want to keep it that way and finish doing everything else possible. Not bad when after a run you tell people the turbos are stock. Besides I actually like shifting between 6-6.5k, makes me feel like I'm not pushing the motor as hard.

[Turbo_power4ever]

Originally Posted by J.J4ck0wsk1

Damn and to make it that much harder to decide on a near maxed out stock turbo set up or upgraded turbos.. These cars can be fairly quick even on stock turbos and something makes me want to keep it that way and finish doing everything else possible. Not bad when after a run you tell people the turbos are stock. Besides I actually like shifting between 6-6.5k, makes me feel like I'm not pushing the motor as hard.

I was on the same boat but I'm sticking with OEM because of reliability.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by Milan

As a tuner on another platform it appears to me that the gains between the red run and the final blue run were mostly tune related. You can tell by looking at the torque curve in the red run, the peak and dip mean that Buraq was not finished adjusting the timing on that run. See how the green and blue graphs mirror each other? That's because both of those runs were finished tunes.

My point is there is still no proof that outlets do anything and it makes me question what took place behind the scenes for Buraq to do a complete tune on the first and last run but not in between. The conspiracy theorist in me says he collaborated with MMP for whatever reason to try to show a gain that's not really there, but realistically he probably just knew you would get to the outlets eventually and didn't give it his all until you had everything. Either way I wouldn't put anything past the vendors in this community after seeing the shady ass shit that comes from Vargas

Nope, I did not collaborate with MMP in any such way, FWIW I don't even have a single MMP product......yet

[JasW]

Originally Posted by 2011z435is

Inlets cost me $180 to install and my mechanic said they were a pain, he charged me the same for outlets but said they were much much easier.

So $360 total -- did he indicate he would have charged more for the inlets than the outlets had he known they would be a pain? I ask because I just ordered the inlet/outlet package, and am asking my guy for a quote on the install.