Wagner copy aliexpress

iCstyle · 03-06-2017, 11:00 AM

You were the guy from DCT flashing right?

I ordered the exact same FMIC which I received today :-) Will also feedback how it went to install and post logs before/after.

Aus335iguy · 03-06-2017, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iCstyle

You were the guy from DCT flashing right?

I ordered the exact same FMIC which I received today :-) Will also feedback how it went to install and post logs before/after.

Yes that's me. I likely won't install for a while as I have some higher priorities.

iliketurtl3s · 03-12-2017, 04:02 AM

Link for cooler pls

Aus335iguy · 03-12-2017, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by iliketurtl3s

Link for cooler pls

First post buddy

rooks335 · 03-13-2017, 12:18 AM

Looks like the fmic will use the oem bmw hose quick connect clips.
Interested to find out your IATs before and after.

iCstyle · 03-13-2017, 05:42 AM

Just mounted it last weekend. Install went without problems, everything fits nicely. The input tube coming from the turbos needed a bit of lubricating to fit.

A 2 gear pull (2nd + 3rd) on MHD stage 2+ made IATs rise from 75F to 102F, see log: http://www.datazap.me/u/icstyle/mhd-...0&data=3-14-22

This was on 15°C outside temp. Unfortunately I really just forgot to log it before with stock FMIC...

I don't really know if this is good or bad :-)

Aus335iguy · 03-13-2017, 06:14 AM

One log in isolation has no meaning really. I'm hoping to log before and after.

MJ80. · 03-13-2017, 07:09 AM

Well its not exactly the same because you have done a second gear through to third pull, where as mine is just a third gear pull but from much lower rpm.

Mine rises 16 degrees F over the pull from 99 to 115.
Yours rises 27 degrees F from 75 to 102.

My ic is the first version vrsf 5" NON stepped.

Not sure how much difference there would be if you just did a 3rd gear from low rpm.

JB4-335 · 03-14-2017, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by iCstyle

Just mounted it last weekend. Install went without problems, everything fits nicely. The input tube coming from the turbos needed a bit of lubricating to fit.

A 2 gear pull (2nd + 3rd) on MHD stage 2+ made IATs rise from 75F to 102F, see log: http://www.datazap.me/u/icstyle/mhd-...0&data=3-14-22

This was on 15°C outside temp. Unfortunately I really just forgot to log it before with stock FMIC...

I don't really know if this is good or bad :-)

It's not really working. Time to get a real IC.

Brule · 03-14-2017, 05:07 AM

If you have a decent intercooler the temps go down when you accelerate during a third gear pull, or at least the same temp.

Depends on flow of your setup and tune but 25f is not very good.

The dme starts pulling timing around 115f.

titium · 03-14-2017, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brule

If you have a decent intercooler the temps go down when you accelerate during a third gear pull, or at least the same temp.

Depends on flow of your setup and tune but 25f is not very good.

The dme starts pulling timing around 115f.

I've seen the mhd guys recommend keeping temps below 140F/60C.

even the best intercoolers will still get above 115F on a mildly warm day with some spirited driving.

my genuine Wagner evo 1 2nd gear to redline 1-2 degree C rise, 2nd to redline then 3rd to redline 9 degree C rise. ambient temp in the mid 20s mhd stage 2.

JASE335 · 03-14-2017, 05:46 AM

Hopefully you guys are onto a winner for under $400.

Third gear logs for comparison.

E60 21.8PSi - Stock intercooler - enough power to light up rears in a 2nd gear log.
Ambient 59
2,000 rpm 79
6,378 rpm 115
After 122

http://www.datazap.me/u/jase335/log-...0&data=4-17-23

JASE335 · 03-14-2017, 05:46 AM

98 18.5PSi - Wagner performance intercooler ($876 Aus delivered - Schmiedmann)- base custom tune
Ambient 65
2,000 rpm 90
4,600 rpm 86
6,500 rpm 93
after 97

http://www.datazap.me/u/jase335/log-...0&data=3-15-23

Aus335iguy · 03-14-2017, 06:05 AM

Jase would you have a log with the Wagner with the higher boost by any chance?

JB4-335 · 03-14-2017, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JASE335

98 18.5PSi - Wagner performance intercooler ($876 Aus delivered - Schmiedmann)- base custom tune
Ambient 65
2,000 rpm 90
4,600 rpm 86
6,500 rpm 93
after 97

http://www.datazap.me/u/jase335/log-...0&data=3-15-23

Nice log. Now that's what a good intercooler should do.

Aus335iguy · 03-14-2017, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB4-335

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASE335

98 18.5PSi - Wagner performance intercooler ($876 Aus delivered - Schmiedmann)- base custom tune
Ambient 65
2,000 rpm 90
4,600 rpm 86
6,500 rpm 93
after 97

http://www.datazap.me/u/jase335/log-...0&data=3-15-23

Nice log. Now that's what a good intercooler should do.

Can't get worse than the stock one!

DR-JEKL · 03-14-2017, 06:14 AM

My car on a 25 degree ambient temp conditions.

It drops 1 degree f after WOT then raises up to 3 degree f after letting off the throttle on a 3rd gear redline log.

FWIW I have a AMS FMIC pushing 18-19 psi on stock turbos running E50.

Brule · 03-14-2017, 06:17 AM

If you have a dip your iats the intercoolers alright.

JB4-335 · 03-14-2017, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

My car on a 25 degree ambient temp conditions.

It drops 1 degree f after WOT then raises up to 3 degree f after letting off the throttle on a 3rd gear redline log.

FWIW I have a AMS FMIC pushing 18-19 psi on stock turbos running E50.

That's another good log of what an upgraded IC should be doing Shane.

I think it's safe to say that you get what you pay for with intercoolers. I wouldn't install one of these copies just cause they look good.

titium · 03-14-2017, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB4-335

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

My car on a 25 degree ambient temp conditions.

It drops 1 degree f after WOT then raises up to 3 degree f after letting off the throttle on a 3rd gear redline log.

FWIW I have a AMS FMIC pushing 18-19 psi on stock turbos running E50.

That's another good log of what an upgraded IC should be doing Shane.

I think it's safe to say that you get what you pay for with intercoolers. I wouldn't install one of these copies just cause they look good.

+1 to this.

not to mention you have no idea how they flow.

DR-JEKL · 03-14-2017, 06:29 AM

Everyone loves a bargain, but yeah sadly this log points out loud and clear that the FMIC isnt working all that effectively

As you pointed out Ed time to junk these fake wagners

Brule · 03-14-2017, 06:41 AM

They are still ok for a power gain cheaply had, but if you get addicted to this stuff you will end up buying an expensive intercooler.

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iCstyle Private First Class 34 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 335i E92 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Switzerland iTrader: (0)	Just mounted it last weekend. Install went without problems, everything fits nicely. The input tube coming from the turbos needed a bit of lubricating to fit. A 2 gear pull (2nd + 3rd) on MHD stage 2+ made IATs rise from 75F to 102F, see log: http://www.datazap.me/u/icstyle/mhd-...0&data=3-14-22 This was on 15°C outside temp. Unfortunately I really just forgot to log it before with stock FMIC... I don't really know if this is good or bad :-)
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MJ80. Major 204 Rep 1,103 Posts Drives: E92 335i DCT Individual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gold Coast, Australia. iTrader: (0)	Well its not exactly the same because you have done a second gear through to third pull, where as mine is just a third gear pull but from much lower rpm. Mine rises 16 degrees F over the pull from 99 to 115. Yours rises 27 degrees F from 75 to 102. My ic is the first version vrsf 5" NON stepped. Not sure how much difference there would be if you just did a 3rd gear from low rpm.
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Brule Brigadier General 841 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 6spd man Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Darwin iTrader: (0)	If you have a decent intercooler the temps go down when you accelerate during a third gear pull, or at least the same temp. Depends on flow of your setup and tune but 25f is not very good. The dme starts pulling timing around 115f.
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JASE335 Private 26 Rep 74 Posts Drives: 335i E90 2008 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Hopefully you guys are onto a winner for under $400. Third gear logs for comparison. E60 21.8PSi - Stock intercooler - enough power to light up rears in a 2nd gear log. Ambient 59 2,000 rpm 79 6,378 rpm 115 After 122 http://www.datazap.me/u/jase335/log-...0&data=4-17-23 Attached Images __________________ 2008 (pre LCI) 335i E90 6AT Sapphire Black- MHD Wedge Custom E60 Map - Fuel It Stage 2 LPFP - Alpina Trans Flash - AFE Stage 2 Intake - RB Inlets & Outlets - Wagner Performance Intercooler - BMS catch can, RB PCV Valve - Whiteline Rear Subframe Bushings - Dunlop Sportmaxx RT - M3 219M 18" Wheels - Akebono Ceramic Pads - M3 Steering Wheel & M3 DCT Paddles - M3 LCI Novillo leather full interior
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DR-JEKL Major General 909 Rep 6,285 Posts Drives: Space Grey E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Newcastle Ozstraylia iTrader: (3)	My car on a 25 degree ambient temp conditions. It drops 1 degree f after WOT then raises up to 3 degree f after letting off the throttle on a 3rd gear redline log. FWIW I have a AMS FMIC pushing 18-19 psi on stock turbos running E50. Attached Images
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Brule Brigadier General 841 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 6spd man Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Darwin iTrader: (0)	They are still ok for a power gain cheaply had, but if you get addicted to this stuff you will end up buying an expensive intercooler.
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