Bimmer Performance Center Built M57 Thread

da_trem · 09-19-2018, 06:29 PM

Thanks for posting these pictures. Very interesting to actually see the guts of a stock piston!

JOHNNYBRAVO1 · 09-20-2018, 12:44 AM

Now thats a true Frankenstein crazy build. Cant wait to keep watching this beast come alive. Great job BPC🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

Phil@BPC · 09-20-2018, 12:06 PM

gn240z · 09-23-2018, 09:10 AM

Good lord, I like an open wallet build...

rkstar9 · 09-23-2018, 06:53 PM

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Good lord, I like an open wallet build...

really cool and interesting photos! so what is the narrative behind the lighter components?

Phil@BPC · 09-24-2018, 07:52 AM

They are lighter but also much stronger than the factory pieces. Another benefit with lighter components is a lighter rotational mass so that the engine can spin easier meaning it doesn't have to work as hard to make power. This is all to demonstrate and show what the M57 is capable of doing and finding any weak links.

Phil@BPC · 09-24-2018, 01:51 PM

The valves are 1mm oversized and the valve seats are made from beryllium.

da_trem · 09-24-2018, 06:49 PM

+1mm on both intake and exhaust?

Top work!!

Skunkwerks · 09-24-2018, 09:22 PM

What does this cost, and what is the expected power level?

What turbo is being used?

Phil@BPC · 09-25-2018, 04:10 PM

The valves are +1mm on both intake and exhaust.

This is our shop build that is being used to explore the potential of this platform. We don't know what the expected power level is we will be going into uncharted territory that no one has be to yet.

We will be using hybrid turbos.

kpg2713 · 09-26-2018, 11:04 AM

Very exciting!

Nadir Point · 09-28-2018, 01:16 PM

Nothing to do with the transmission?

Except destroy it?

Phil@BPC · 09-28-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nadir Point

Nothing to do with the transmission?

Except destroy it?

We have plans for that too

335dM · 09-28-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

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Originally Posted by Nadir Point

Nothing to do with the transmission?

Except destroy it?

We have plans for that too

I hope you guys are working on a solution to the 4th-5th gear on our 6hp28 ?

BB_cuda · 09-28-2018, 07:42 PM

Beryllium valve seats? What were the originals made from? Stuff is a dangerous stuff to breath if dust is produced. Presume you all bought them ready to go and installed into head. Beryllium very bad ass stuff in terms of modulus to density ratio. Used inside nuclear weapons. Go read Sum of all Fears by Tom Clancy.

Asonchadwick · 09-29-2018, 12:34 AM

Its beryllium copper

Phil@BPC · 10-01-2018, 03:05 PM

Upgraded torque converter that will be used when we rebuilt and strengthen the transmission

Nadir Point · 10-02-2018, 02:06 PM

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Upgraded torque converter that will be used when we rebuilt and strengthen the transmission

Awesome. You know, that's only ever been my 1 fundamental complaint about the car. A tighter torque converter with the internals to handle it would make this car a seriously insane monster.

robnitro · 10-02-2018, 07:02 PM

Is it tighter or same as stock stall? I guess the tcc was upgraded, but the tc itself might have the same characteristics as oem.

Phil@BPC · 10-03-2018, 08:09 AM

It has a higher stall than the factory torque converter.

Phil@BPC · 10-03-2018, 10:51 AM

Nadir Point · 10-03-2018, 11:03 AM

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It has a higher stall than the factory torque converter.

Are they estimating that static or footbrake? Compared to the stocker? I don't understand how you can select a converter without knowing exactly where the torque peak is on the engine yet. Probably not important if you do not plan on any serious racing.

09-19-2018, 06:29 PM	#23
da_trem Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: May 2016 Location: Montreal iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [0.00]	Thanks for posting these pictures. Very interesting to actually see the guts of a stock piston! __________________ 2009 335d Take a look here; Build thread: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1482039 Full album here : http://imageshack.com/a/KoPl/1
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JOHNNYBRAVO1 NY BRAVEST 47 Rep 231 Posts Drives: 2010 Monaco blue, 335D Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NEW YORK, LONG ISLAND iTrader: (0)	Now thats a true Frankenstein crazy build. Cant wait to keep watching this beast come alive. Great job BPC🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
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gn240z New Member 6 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	Good lord, I like an open wallet build...
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Phil@BPC Lieutenant 486 Rep 489 Posts Drives: E39 M5/ E30 325is Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 325is [0.00]	They are lighter but also much stronger than the factory pieces. Another benefit with lighter components is a lighter rotational mass so that the engine can spin easier meaning it doesn't have to work as hard to make power. This is all to demonstrate and show what the M57 is capable of doing and finding any weak links.
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Phil@BPC Lieutenant 486 Rep 489 Posts Drives: E39 M5/ E30 325is Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 325is [0.00]	The valves are 1mm oversized and the valve seats are made from beryllium. Last edited by Phil@BPC; 09-24-2018 at 03:32 PM..
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09-24-2018, 06:49 PM	#30
da_trem Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: May 2016 Location: Montreal iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [0.00]	+1mm on both intake and exhaust? Top work!! __________________ 2009 335d Take a look here; Build thread: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1482039 Full album here : http://imageshack.com/a/KoPl/1
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Skunkwerks New Member 66 Rep 18 Posts Drives: E30 M3 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Shed iTrader: (0)	What does this cost, and what is the expected power level? What turbo is being used?
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Phil@BPC Lieutenant 486 Rep 489 Posts Drives: E39 M5/ E30 325is Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 325is [0.00]	The valves are +1mm on both intake and exhaust. This is our shop build that is being used to explore the potential of this platform. We don't know what the expected power level is we will be going into uncharted territory that no one has be to yet. We will be using hybrid turbos.
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09-26-2018, 11:04 AM	#33
kpg2713 New Member 2 Rep 10 Posts Drives: '11 335d Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Richmond, VA iTrader: (0)	Very exciting!
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09-28-2018, 01:16 PM	#34
Nadir Point Lieutenant 110 Rep 596 Posts Drives: Diesel Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO iTrader: (0)	Nothing to do with the transmission? Except destroy it?
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BB_cuda Brigadier General 796 Rep 3,572 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	Beryllium valve seats? What were the originals made from? Stuff is a dangerous stuff to breath if dust is produced. Presume you all bought them ready to go and installed into head. Beryllium very bad ass stuff in terms of modulus to density ratio. Used inside nuclear weapons. Go read Sum of all Fears by Tom Clancy.
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Asonchadwick Sleepy 76 Rep 367 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Its beryllium copper
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10-01-2018, 03:05 PM	#39
Phil@BPC Lieutenant 486 Rep 489 Posts Drives: E39 M5/ E30 325is Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 325is [0.00]	Upgraded torque converter that will be used when we rebuilt and strengthen the transmission
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robnitro Captain 166 Rep 805 Posts Drives: x5 35d e70 2011 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NYC area iTrader: (0)	Is it tighter or same as stock stall? I guess the tcc was upgraded, but the tc itself might have the same characteristics as oem.
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Phil@BPC Lieutenant 486 Rep 489 Posts Drives: E39 M5/ E30 325is Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 325is [0.00]	It has a higher stall than the factory torque converter.
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