really growing fond of sport hatches what do you guys think of the mazaspeed 3?

dexter · 08-01-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 305e92

Mazda 3 well I think its crap...

That's really productive. I know I asked for opinions, but I was actually hoping for some intelligent ones. It was going good until you came along. It's people like you that ruin these forums. If you don't have something helpful to contribute then stay out of these forums. Or at least my thread.

Inspired · 08-01-2009, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Babs

Going from a 335 to a mazda 3?!?!?!? What made you do that??

+1.. wondering the same thing...

DocSean · 08-01-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dexter

yeah, i'm looking at used 08-09 GT's only. i could care less about the navi as well. i think it looks terrible. i'm really trying to find an 08.5 because of the interior facelift. have you seen the alcantara inserts on the seats and doors? looks 1,000 times better than the previous material. so you had a downpipe eh? i heard mazda is hardcore about voiding warranties for any aftermarket parts. care to chime in on your experience?

They aren't so bad if it is a catted downpipe. Biggest reason in my opinion is because the catless downpipes started to bring to surface faulty turbo seals in the '07s and the dealerships wanted to blame downpipes.

I'm sure you're aware that CP-E produces a pnp standback for the ms3, this along with an intake and downpipe would make for one nasty wagon.

My biggest gripe about the interior was never any fabrics, but I wasn't a big fan of 1) the interior lighting and 2) the gray plastic on the 07's on the center stack, but my understanding is that they went to piano black in 08??? Correct me if I am wrong.

koreez88 · 08-01-2009, 05:24 AM

I'd say go for a new STi hatch. I wasn't fond of them at first, but I've seen a couple of modded ones on streets and they look nice. Plus, Ken Block kinda made me like them.

dexter · 08-01-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DocSean

They aren't so bad if it is a catted downpipe. Biggest reason in my opinion is because the catless downpipes started to bring to surface faulty turbo seals in the '07s and the dealerships wanted to blame downpipes.

I'm sure you're aware that CP-E produces a pnp standback for the ms3, this along with an intake and downpipe would make for one nasty wagon.

My biggest gripe about the interior was never any fabrics, but I wasn't a big fan of 1) the interior lighting and 2) the gray plastic on the 07's on the center stack, but my understanding is that they went to piano black in 08??? Correct me if I am wrong.

yes they did switch to piano black, and not just on the center stack area. they did it on the steering wheel control area and on the door panels where the window switches are. they also switched to perforated alcantara suede for the seats and door panel trim it looks soooo much better.

dexter · 08-01-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by koreez88

I'd say go for a new STi hatch. I wasn't fond of them at first, but I've seen a couple of modded ones on streets and they look nice. Plus, Ken Block kinda made me like them.

i like the new STi wagon but as stated before, insurance would be through the roof for me.

blklacker · 08-01-2009, 10:15 PM

The mazda 3 looks better than the STI stock for stock IMO

to_riffic · 08-01-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blklacker

The mazda 3 looks better than the STI stock for stock IMO

+1

mazdaspeed 3 is sick. my sis has a reg maz 3 and i like it

DocSean · 08-02-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dexter

i like the new STi wagon but as stated before, insurance would be through the roof for me.

Dude pull the trigger on the MS3, I miss mine so much!

blklacker · 08-02-2009, 01:20 AM

after you debage a mazda 3 I think they look sick.. i think Subie totally bit off the mazda 3 hatchback style and failed

Inspired · 08-02-2009, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DocSean

Dude pull the trigger on the MS3, I miss mine so much!

what do you drive now?

Citizen Z · 08-02-2009, 09:29 AM

I came to my 135i from a 2004 Mazda 3 hatch. Fantastic vehicle, the steering feel was light but you could whip it like nothing else I've driven. The 2.3liter was kinda breathless beyond 3rd gear and the clutch was perfectly adequate compared to the 1ers. My only reservation is the new Mazda 3s are missing some of the X factor that made the old ones such an inexpensive joy.

11Past9 · 08-02-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dexter

i like the subies, but my insurance will be through the roof. also the interior feels way too bland in the wrx even compared to the MS3 IMO. i guess i just need to go test drive it tomorrow and see whats what.

You are going to ditch superior performance and AWD for a MS3 interior? You have just been cut off.

11Past9 · 08-02-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dexter

i like the new STi wagon but as stated before, insurance would be through the roof for me.

That is a crock of shit, a MS3 compared to an 09 WRX or even STi is not going to be much different. But you strike me as the type who would whine about interior color options and sparkly buttons so forget it.

idyll · 08-02-2009, 09:51 PM

what about a slightly used or new audi a3 2.0T? you could also chip it and get even more power out of it if need be

dexter · 08-03-2009, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Past9

That is a crock of shit, a MS3 compared to an 09 WRX or even STi is not going to be much different. But you strike me as the type who would whine about interior color options and sparkly buttons so forget it.

i have already spoke with my insurance broker, my monthly payment with full coverage, high limits is $180 per month for the mazdaspeed3 and for the new subie wrx sti it was $335 per month. which is a $155 a month difference. i would say that is significant no? and the sti interior is fine, especially with the performance you get of it. but the regular wrx interior i think is a bit more bland.

Couch · 08-03-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blklacker

after you debage a mazda 3 I think they look sick.. i think Subie totally bit off the mazda 3 hatchback style and failed

I saw a black on black hatch debadged and dropped. It was done simply and really looked good.

bigslick82 · 08-03-2009, 12:27 PM

If you're looking at sport hatches, why not look at the one that started it? The gti. There is a newer model coming out at the end of the year.

11Past9 · 08-04-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dexter

i have already spoke with my insurance broker, my monthly payment with full coverage, high limits is $180 per month for the mazdaspeed3 and for the new subie wrx sti it was $335 per month. which is a $155 a month difference. i would say that is significant no? and the sti interior is fine, especially with the performance you get of it. but the regular wrx interior i think is a bit more bland.

Then shop around for insurance. The WRX is not the same price to insure as the STi. Don't be a frigging fool and buy a car based on what one insurance company gave you for a quote on a Mazdaspeed3 and a WRX/STi when I was talking about the 2009 WRX.

2009 WRX interior NON-STi

2009 WRX/STi interior

2009 Mazdaspeed3 interior

I fail to see any significant difference in the WRX and STi interiors aside from the seats. Oh well, it's your money. I'm done.

DocSean · 08-04-2009, 09:37 PM

Lets not forget that a Sti is signifigantly more expensive than an MS3.

dexter · 08-05-2009, 05:23 AM

thanks for your input 11past9. the 2010 wrx interior doesnt look as bad as i remembered it. and by the way the mazspeed3 interior shot you have is of the 2010. which is fully redesigned. i actually prefer the 09' GT interior. but like doc sean said the STI is double what i would be paying for an 09' MS3, and the wrx about $10k more. although all wheel drive would be nice, i just don't think $10 grand more nice. have you driven the new subie yet? how does it feel?

Genericuser1 · 08-06-2009, 10:14 AM

Speed 3 is a good car, the clutch is light and a bit touchy but the shift engagement is good. It feels peppy and the torque steer isn’t as bad as say a MINI Cooper S. Take a look at a Subaru WRX or a Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart sportback. Both are in the same ballpark price-wise to the MS3. STI or Evo is going to run you low to mid 30’s. If it’s more of a fun commuter car and you get traffic I’d opt for the Lancer Sportback as it has a dual-clutch transmission. If you want to spend a bit more or need more room you could get a used Audi S4 wagon.

As to costs (MSRP not invoice or whatever incentives are available) a MS3 will be low 20’s or mid 20’s depending on trim, WRX and Lancer Sportback should be mid 20’s.

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koreez88 Всем привет ;) 152 Rep 3,358 Posts Drives: Tesla Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (12)	I'd say go for a new STi hatch. I wasn't fond of them at first, but I've seen a couple of modded ones on streets and they look nice. Plus, Ken Block kinda made me like them.
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blklacker Captain 52 Rep 657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: seattle iTrader: (0)	The mazda 3 looks better than the STI stock for stock IMO __________________ -135i BSM, CRBL ,custom front lip/Indianapolis red fade, blacked out tail lights/corner headlights, golf tee, BMS Air intake, SSTT, CF spoiler,Powdered coated OEM rims gunmetal high gloss,custom Rear diffuser Black/Indianapolis red fade
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blklacker Captain 52 Rep 657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: seattle iTrader: (0)	after you debage a mazda 3 I think they look sick.. i think Subie totally bit off the mazda 3 hatchback style and failed __________________ -135i BSM, CRBL ,custom front lip/Indianapolis red fade, blacked out tail lights/corner headlights, golf tee, BMS Air intake, SSTT, CF spoiler,Powdered coated OEM rims gunmetal high gloss,custom Rear diffuser Black/Indianapolis red fade
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Citizen Z Alpine Master 118 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (1)	I came to my 135i from a 2004 Mazda 3 hatch. Fantastic vehicle, the steering feel was light but you could whip it like nothing else I've driven. The 2.3liter was kinda breathless beyond 3rd gear and the clutch was perfectly adequate compared to the 1ers. My only reservation is the new Mazda 3s are missing some of the X factor that made the old ones such an inexpensive joy. __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727
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bigslick82 Second Lieutenant 66 Rep 209 Posts Drives: - Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: - iTrader: (0)	If you're looking at sport hatches, why not look at the one that started it? The gti. There is a newer model coming out at the end of the year.
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Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Speed 3 is a good car, the clutch is light and a bit touchy but the shift engagement is good. It feels peppy and the torque steer isn’t as bad as say a MINI Cooper S. Take a look at a Subaru WRX or a Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart sportback. Both are in the same ballpark price-wise to the MS3. STI or Evo is going to run you low to mid 30’s. If it’s more of a fun commuter car and you get traffic I’d opt for the Lancer Sportback as it has a dual-clutch transmission. If you want to spend a bit more or need more room you could get a used Audi S4 wagon. As to costs (MSRP not invoice or whatever incentives are available) a MS3 will be low 20’s or mid 20’s depending on trim, WRX and Lancer Sportback should be mid 20’s.
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