CAR explains BMW E and F names

Scorpion · 11-30-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pmeloche

Internally, BMW has teams of designers to design new platforms. For instance, for the E46 3 Series they would have two teams who would each come up with their own design and each team would be assigned a design code (let's say E45 and E46). Then, whichever design team wins then their code becomes official and the code of the losing design is relegated to oblivion.

It's very much like the procurement of military systems. When the Air Force sent a RFP for a small fighter to complement the F-15 Eagle General Dynamics and Northrop came up with their entry which were given the codes XF-16 and XF-17 respectively. Eventually, GD won and its design became the F-16 and the F-17 never was.

As an aside, when the U.S. Navy wanted a single replacement for the F-14 and A-6 McDonnell-Douglas bought the Northrop XF-17 design, and came up with the F/A-18.

That's pretty crazy, wish they would release the designs that were rejected just so we could get a look at them lol.

derekL · 11-30-2009, 05:28 PM

of course they left out the 1 series....

CPI · 12-01-2009, 03:03 PM

Cool! thanks for sharing!

ragingclue · 12-01-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pmeloche

As an aside, when the U.S. Navy wanted a single replacement for the F-14 and A-6 McDonnell-Douglas bought the Northrop XF-17 design, and came up with the F/A-18.

...which then became known as the Lawn Dart.

rogermood · 12-03-2009, 06:14 AM

Hi 320what,
Thanks for the posting, It is really helpful to me.
My heartiest thanks for sharing.

elfhearse · 12-04-2009, 03:18 PM

e36/8 was the Z3 Coupe

(UH60 was aka "Lawn Dart" back in the late 70's-early 80's)

southlight · 12-04-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scott@bmwhn

they also forgot the the 550i GT
F05 i think

F07

Also missing is the 2nd generation of the 1, the F20.

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south

pmeloche · 12-04-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion

That's pretty crazy, wish they would release the designs that were rejected just so we could get a look at them lol.

It would be interesting indeed. For the competition for the close-air support aircraft in the '70s Northrop proposed its A-9 and Fairchild proposed the A-10. Fairchild won and the A-9 disappeared into oblivion. Strangely enough, the Soviet Union came up with the very successful Su-25 Frogfoot that is almost an exact copy of the A-9! How could that be?

me90kreuz · 12-05-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Castel

Letter F makes me think of Lexus, IS-F.

how about think of F430?

pmeloche · 12-06-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ragingclue

...which then became known as the Lawn Dart.

I did not know that.

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