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Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Absolutely..they have refused to fix the nonstop rattling in the interior of my car due to my m6 rims. Car has rattled like crazy since day one of owning

You need a new dealership.

[kirby135i]

Originally Posted by r45t4m4n

You need a new dealership.

+1

[Cornhusker]

if your warranty is voided, can't you just seel the car and get a new one for the same price, basically?

[ianthegreat]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Wait a second. You have removed your 2nd cats and have aftermarket downpipes.

And you are wondering why BMW might have flagged the car?

Thread fail.

Exactly.. I thought it was just an exhaust. Now you mentioned aftermarket exhaust and DP of which one (or both for all we know) are catless. Whether they're at fault or not (not), you are just asking for a warranty denial.

[kirby135i]

Originally Posted by Cornhusker

if your warranty is voided, can't you just seel the car and get a new one for the same price, basically?

guess u havent looked up how much cars depreciate as soon as they are driven off the lot

[jcarlucci1]

While I agree in some ways..BMW NA made the decision, not the dealer. Since the dealer is incompetent and had to open a puma case, the info was then transferred to BMW where the decision was made

Originally Posted by r45t4m4n

You need a new dealership.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Stock exhaust, 2nd cats removed. I also have dp's but I dont think they even noticed. The issue was specifically with the exhaust/cat removal

There are many of us in your situation. I feel for you. I've got a year left on warranty, but I don't expect to place any claims considering the modifications I have. At this point I've bit the bullet on holding the bag for any issues.

Crossing fingers, knocking on wood, holding my rabbits foot, and hoping the lucky horseshoe stays implanted.

PS: I'm enjoying the heck out of the car, way more than if it were stock.

[jcarlucci1]

Good point..thats my decision now..back to stock or just completely modded and forget about warranty..My car is just CONSTANTLY broken though..

Originally Posted by scottp999

There are many of us in your situation. I feel for you. I've got a year left on warranty, but I don't expect to place any claims considering the modifications I have. At this point I've bit the bullet on holding the bag for any issues.

Crossing fingers, knocking on wood, holding my rabbits foot, and hoping the lucky horseshoe stays implanted.

PS: I'm enjoying the heck out of the car, way more than if it were stock.

[Cornhusker]

I'd still just buy a new one... and put my mods on it.... other than having to pay the taxes again... there's not really any negatives to this. I mean buy a equivalent used one... all of em depreciate about the same...

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

Maybe, but valve cover gasket is not too expensive to replace in terms of labor and parts.
If it's blown turbo with no cat, aftermarket DP and exhaust, BMW may not be so generous.

above scenario is a conclusive FAIL -- toss youre arguments aside and pull out your wallet...

[Juan.sidarta]

Say that you want a lawyer. I asked my dealership and they said that they have to prove that it was caused by the aftermarket part. They said that I'd lose my warranty for the 'exhaust' if I change it, but I'd still have my engine warranty. As long as the cause of the problem was not the exhaust, they should cover it. Sue them!!

[Wosby]

Is there a list of mod friendly dealership by region on here?

[uberschnell]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

FAIL - The MM Act does NOT cover "alterations" to the vehicle which can and will void the appropriate area of the new vehicle warranty. For instance if you mod the powertrain, you lose that section of the warranty but the suspension warranty, etc. would typically still be valid unless the powertrain mod impacted the suspension in some manner.

In addition the MM Act applies to direct replacement spec parts only, not to components designed to "alter" the vehicle in any way. Removal of emissions devices are illegal and constitute "alterations" to the vehicle. Have a lawyer explain it to you if you have questions on the technical and legal aspects.

I do not provide legal advice. Unless you can get a lawyer to work on 100% contingency, take their advice with a large grain of salt however as you'll be paying the bill. In America you can sue for anything but it does not mean that the law will change to suit your desires.

right-on-the-money

[David1]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

While I agree in some ways..BMW NA made the decision, not the dealer. Since the dealer is incompetent and had to open a puma case, the info was then transferred to BMW where the decision was made

Your dealer is a snitch!

[SpanKyM3]

so what about replacing the stock intake with DCi(duel cone intake)?would it be a void in warranty or does it depend?

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by SpanKyM3

so what about replacing the stock intake with DCi(duel cone intake)?would it be a void in warranty or does it depend?

again, if that component affects anything in the intake tract, or the engine .. expect to have it thrown into the equation. if the mounting brackets or any fastening hardware are related.. again, expect to the worst, an hope for the best.

It may seem really stupid, or childish, but the best way to find out how your service dept. handles modded cars, is to ask a open-ended question to service manager, if you can find him/her. this usually will indicate how the advisor will handle the situation.

"hey Chuck, (or whoever) -- Um, what do you think of those XX intakes, do they really give you a performance increase??"

what follows is what to expect if you mod you car.. i'd suggest that every car owner ask these questions -- just to get a feel for shop policies...

[jcarlucci1]

Problem is, their policies go out the window once a puma case is opened. Any alterations to the car are submitted to BMWNA, and they decide if warranty is honored or not. My car has been modded for years, and no one has said anything..bad coils, hpfp, water pump, all fixed with no issue.

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

again, if that component affects anything in the intake tract, or the engine .. expect to have it thrown into the equation. if the mounting brackets or any fastening hardware are related.. again, expect to the worst, an hope for the best.

It may seem really stupid, or childish, but the best way to find out how your service dept. handles modded cars, is to ask a open-ended question to service manager, if you can find him/her. this usually will indicate how the advisor will handle the situation.

"hey Chuck, (or whoever) -- Um, what do you think of those XX intakes, do they really give you a performance increase??"

what follows is what to expect if you mod you car.. i'd suggest that every car owner ask these questions -- just to get a feel for shop policies...

[Andrew@LutzPerformance]

voided warranty= Save up for some serious mods!

Side note- Josh if you need anything else or we can help you in any way, just let me know!

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Problem is, their policies go out the window once a puma case is opened. Any alterations to the car are submitted to BMWNA, and they decide if warranty is honored or not. My car has been modded for years, and no one has said anything..bad coils, hpfp, water pump, all fixed with no issue.

from my understanding the only reason a PuMA case is opened if the tech has trouble indentifying the failed system or component... and is asking for assistance from Technical, or the component is on a list of items that require a submission prior to warranty approval.

if the tech noted the mod in the report ... then yes, ur up a creek without a paddle.

[SpanKyM3]

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

again, if that component affects anything in the intake tract, or the engine .. expect to have it thrown into the equation. if the mounting brackets or any fastening hardware are related.. again, expect to the worst, an hope for the best.

It may seem really stupid, or childish, but the best way to find out how your service dept. handles modded cars, is to ask a open-ended question to service manager, if you can find him/her. this usually will indicate how the advisor will handle the situation.

"hey Chuck, (or whoever) -- Um, what do you think of those XX intakes, do they really give you a performance increase??"

what follows is what to expect if you mod you car.. i'd suggest that every car owner ask these questions -- just to get a feel for shop policies...

Thanks.I'll tell you this.when i bought my car in 2008.The manager said"these cars can go really fast especially after a tune".So I asked with what tune?he gave me a pamflet of a PES & said this will make your car flyyyy!So maybe my dealer would be ok here.Does anyone know about this PES?I looked it up.Wasnt interested.Maybe PES is ok with BMW or in cohoots?