[Fester]

Originally Posted by PresaMat

Guess what... the first people buying Dinan will be the same. Hell the first people buying the 335i are doing the same. Dinan isnt doing much different... do you really think he has 100 cars that have his 335i kit on right now doing long term testing? No. He probably has barely started on it and the first people to buy it will most likely be the real testers. Would I like to get a mod that is 100% covered by warranty? Yes. But would it have the same performance as shiv's? Very unlikely. Do I want to pay 3K for something that doesnt give much of a performance boost? Personally no. $3k for the performance shiv is getting is OK. Now paying $3K for an extra 25-30RWHP that is covered by warranty? IMO i would rather stay stock.

No flames intended just my humble opinions.

Mat

How can you tell that Dinan will be / will not be better than Xcede's solution?

[PresaMat]

Originally Posted by Fester

How can you tell that Dinan will be / will not be better than Xcede's solution?

1. Look at all of Dinans previous mods. None of them come close HP/$$ then other tuners. Shiv is running a strong yet reliable tune but it is a pretty large performance increase (meaning higher chance of other things failing). Dinan always goes very conservative with his products. Look at his website you will see what I mean.

2. Since Dinan sells through BMW do you really think he will release a product that will make the 335i close to the performance of the upcoming 08 M3? I dont.

[sdiver68]

I contacted Dinan in August about chip/exhaust/etc.. for the 335i, at that time they stated they did not even have one there yet. So, Dinan adopters are guinea pigs as well, and Xede has MUCH more experience with street turbos than Dinan.