[enrita]

My IC is better than yours. jeez...

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by tscdennab

Stay cool man...I know you just ordered a HPF intercooler (I incidentally read another intercooler thread). The frontal area was not the key selling point to me, and not even the fitment (it does require some trimming). But rather the whole package. Doesn't seem to have a lot of compromises. It's a high quality option for Europe-based owners, in my opinion.

Hopefully I will install it this weekend because they said they will send it via UPS which is fast across Europe

I am cool, but for someone to post a comment such as, "too small frontal area" is SO bogus...and frankly embarassing for him IMO. By the way, 99% of all fmic require trimming of the OEM shroud. It comes down to how much trimming and what the limitations of space are. And yes the whole pacakage should have been the selling factor for you unless its your race car. I dont get heated or frustrated I just gave my best opinion given the information that I know. It seems like a good option because it mirrors helix which is very good option and 2 because its black anodized and looks stealthy which I like. Good choice if you are in EU. But for us in the states....i am sticking to my decision with the HPF. Im interested in your review of ambient flow rate over stock and pressure drop.

[techlogik]

Originally Posted by enrita

great choice, thats probably the best IC out there.

How's it the best when they use what appears to be a similar silicon connector that is an accordion type disrupting airflow? I'm hoping that is just for the outside the ribbing, because if the inside looks like the outside on that one tube...bad design.

Intercooler itself looks pretty similar to others...but that silicon tubing needs to go on that short end, get something smoother.

[SlicktopTTZ]

Can you link to purchase site? I can't find with Google.

Also, what is the volume in CI?


* Nevermind, found it: http://www.wagner-tuning.de/EN/produ...uehler_eng.php

I converted from CC to CI.

It's 828CI, very good.

[tscdennab]

Originally Posted by techlogik

How's it the best when they use what appears to be a similar silicon connector that is an accordion type disrupting airflow? I'm hoping that is just for the outside the ribbing, because if the inside looks like the outside on that one tube...bad design.

Intercooler itself looks pretty similar to others...but that silicon tubing needs to go on that short end, get something smoother.

It can be easily replaced if needed. But the engine is vibrating/moving quite a bit on RPM changes, I suppose the accordion hose is used to avoid a possible hose slip in the long run. It's the same system as the stock downpipes which have accordion couplers in order to cope with the engine vibrations.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by tscdennab

It can be easily replaced if needed. But the engine is vibrating/moving quite a bit on RPM changes, I suppose the accordion hose is used to avoid a possible hose slip in the long run. It's the same system as the stock downpipes which have accordion couplers in order to cope with the engine vibrations.

If that's the case everyone here with aftermarket DPs are screwed because we don't have that flex joint on the dps anymore! I think it's a useless piece when it comes to the intercooler but as for the dp, we will see if long term usage without this flex joint will crack the dp or crack the turbo flanges. So far no reports of this though!

[Big Tom]

Originally Posted by enrita

My IC is better than yours. jeez...

[E90MTL]

not bad... looks very.. very similar to the Helix Stepped core design. And the piping looks top notch. I don't think you can go wrong with this.

[marconi118]

Originally Posted by tscdennab

Hi,


Through some tax engineering and heavy negotiation I managed to get it for about $800 shipping included. But you can't get this price if you live outside EU, however.

Sorry if this post was useless. I will post a review as soon as I install it !

How did you get this 800$ quote?
I am interested, and live in europe

[Alex@Helix]

Hmmm... that looks kind of similar

Unfortunately that intercooler looks like it has a lot less of a frontal area than ours. This intercooler also doesnt have the plates bullnosed inside and out.

Its a nice try though

[Aridk]

Originally Posted by marconi118

How did you get this 800$ quote?
I am interested, and live in europe

Search 335i on ebay.de and then take the submeny engine

[FedeM]

Originally Posted by Aridk

Search 335i on ebay.de and then take the submeny engine

I find only 770€+11€ shipping...
it's about 1100$ shipped (1.4 eur - usd) ...

[tscdennab]

My intercooler has finally arrived...it's BIG and quite heavy Now I will have to find the nearest shop to install it...unfortunately I don't think I can install it until next week...

[tscdennab]

Hi,

After seeing how big the Wagner intercooler is, I have now decided to re-sell it because I really have no need for such a big intercooler. I didn't imagine the stepped core intercoolers are so big...my mistake. The price is extremely attractive !

The selling thread is here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452215

(the usernames are different because I can no longer post on this forum section with my old username - apparently I have upset some site sponsors...)

So, if anyone in Europe is interested...first-come, first served

[tscdennab]

New info...I have decided to install the intercooler (tomorrow ! ). My main concern was the weight, but there are so many people with the Helix (which weights 3+ pounds more) that I don't think it will be a problem.

I asked Wagner about pressure drop data and they said it is 0.3psi They did not specify the pressure at which the drop was measured. But I looked carefully at the external and internal fin packs and it's about ideal: the external fins are louvered (cooling) while the internal fins are straight (low pressure drop). The small intercoolers can't have straight internal fins because they would not cool properly, but for a large intercooler like this internal straight fins are ideal.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by tscdennab

New info...I have decided to install the intercooler (tomorrow ! ). My main concern was the weight, but there are so many people with the Helix (which weights 3+ pounds more) that I don't think it will be a problem.

I asked Wagner about pressure drop data and they said it is 0.3psi They did not specify the pressure at which the drop was measured. But I looked carefully at the external and internal fin packs and it's about ideal: the external fins are louvered (cooling) while the internal fins are straight (low pressure drop). The small intercoolers can't have straight internal fins because they would not cool properly, but for a large intercooler like this internal straight fins are ideal.

Great, I'm looking forward to learn more about your experince with install and performance. If everything works as well as expected, I will order one myself as well

[Panoz]

looks impressive...I'd really like to give it a try.

[tscdennab]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Great, I'm looking forward to learn more about your experince with install and performance. If everything works as well as expected, I will order one myself as well

Unfortunately, a prospective buyer just appeared on Friday and I held up on the intercooler install until I finished the negotiation...which didn't finalize and I was left with a stock intercooler on my week-end drag racing event I hope I will install it this week though.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by tscdennab

Unfortunately, a prospective buyer just appeared on Friday and I held up on the intercooler install until I finished the negotiation...which didn't finalize and I was left with a stock intercooler on my week-end drag racing event I hope I will install it this week though.

Any news? I just made an offer on the German e-bay site to see how cheap I can get it

[Constant.S]

Wagner Tuning Intercoolers craftmanship is superb. Why dont you go through the official website and try to get a "reduced price quote" ?

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Constant.S

Wagner Tuning Intercoolers craftmanship is superb. Why dont you go through the official website and try to get a "reduced price quote" ?

That's actually where I started, but their website is f***ed up atm, so whenever I tried to register, the whole page looked like crap and it kept on insisting that I put in a zip code, which I had done every time. I simply gave up after 5-6 attempts and found it new as wel as cheaper on e-bay. Then the merchant inside me had to try to get a further bargain.....

[Constant.S]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

That's actually where I started, but their website is f***ed up atm, so whenever I tried to register, the whole page looked like crap and it kept on insisting that I put in a zip code, which I had done every time. I simply gave up after 5-6 attempts and found it new as wel as cheaper on e-bay. Then the merchant inside me had to try to get a further bargain.....

Just give them a call:
WAGNER Tuning • Dorfstrasse 7A • D-06862 Mühlstedt • Phone: 034901-949159
Or get the E-bay item if the seller has some good rep points