[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

Seems a little difficult to believe. I know these cars are fast - but an s2000 is like a go cart with a huge motor. When people turbo those things they get like 380-450 hp. If anything, you beat him because he wasn't hooking up the tires....

Trust me, he wasn't smoking his tires. I use to own an S2000 with a Vortech SC on it so I know what those cars are capable of. I personally know the owner of the S2000 that I raced and I can gaurantee you that his car is not all that. Not only did I beat him once, but 6-10 times. If I could get him to run me again, I will get some videos.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by pikemike420

Good point.

Didn't have a good SA last time, so maybe next time I can do some talking.

Went in to get my rubber strip above my windshield replaced because it was cracking, and they replaced it, but left a half inch gap open on the drivers side. I called him outside and told him he must be kidding me. He then kept the whole-I am going to fix it the right way, just remember when you get the survey to give me a 10.

Haha I would have talked to the manager, They say give me a 10 for the survey because they are all on comission...and if you dont give them a 10 they arent paid as much. As for the rubber strip, thats the techs fault(which makes the SA look bad, which sux for him). What I recommend you doing is asking forum members in your area who(BMW SA and tech) is "mod friendly." Or you can simply ask at the dealership like I did. I suggest that you start tipping your tech and or SA and you wont believe how much your service changes...cash in their pocket=them helping you out as much as they can w/o jeapordizing their job. And just for down the road purposes, I got everything installed at bmw that I couldnt do myself. They will do most anything except downpipes and exhaust because of emissions. Other than that you should be good to go. Let me know if you have any more questions.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

Trust me, he wasn't smoking his tires. I use to own an S2000 with a Vortech SC on it so I know what those cars are capable of. I personally know the owner of the S2000 that I raced and I can gaurantee you that his car is not all that. Not only did I beat him once, but 6-10 times. If I could get him to run me again, I will get some videos.

Nice, so I should put some money on this race then HUH? lol But as for your numbers, is that to the wheels or the to the crank? Farrrr different but im sure you know that already. If he is making 350 to the wheels he has to be in the mid 12's(which is where a lot of us n54 guys are) for the quarter mile unless he drives like a bitch. I would love to check out the vid, let me know if you get this done.

[pikemike420]

Originally Posted by Penn999

Haha I would have talked to the manager, They say give me a 10 for the survey because they are all on comission...and if you dont give them a 10 they arent paid as much. As for the rubber strip, thats the techs fault(which makes the SA look bad, which sux for him). What I recommend you doing is asking forum members in your area who(BMW SA and tech) is "mod friendly." Or you can simply ask at the dealership like I did. I suggest that you start tipping your tech and or SA and you wont believe how much your service changes...cash in their pocket=them helping you out as much as they can w/o jeapordizing their job. And just for down the road purposes, I got everything installed at bmw that I couldnt do myself. They will do most anything except downpipes and exhaust because of emissions. Other than that you should be good to go. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks Penn

-Mike

[Infamous]

to add to the list -

- lightly modded 05-09 mustang GT's - I used to own one; if the guy only has a tune and intake, youll pass him. If he has moderate bolt to full bolt ons, youll get passed stock. thats when you buy a tune

- LS1 camaro close to stock

- new CTS with the big v6

- SC300 with 1jz swap (factory twins). was a friend's car, i walked him pretty bad in my mustang

- lexus SC430, walked him badly in the mustang, no problem in the 335i

- mildly tuned diesel trucks - used to see a lot of them in the south where i lived. it does get circumstantial since some folk dump tens of thousands in additional motor work / nitrous/meth etc

- bald old guys on harleys. serious. tons of them. i dont know why they even bother, i had a lot of them bug me on the mustang.

cant even remember the rest, tons of street racing happens in north texas LOL. i'm trying to behave now in SD

[Bimmer This]

I haven't gotten any numbers on mine. Now I am Stage 3 mods. The last time WE (him and I) went to the race track together, I pulled off a 12.92 (5280 ft. above sea level) and he pulled off a 14.5. He does have a video of his car running on his facebook and I'll see if I can copy it and put it here for everyone to see.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

I haven't gotten any numbers on mine. Now I am Stage 3 mods. The last time WE (him and I) went to the race track together, I pulled off a 12.92 (5280 ft. above sea level) and he pulled off a 14.5. He does have a video of his car running on his facebook and I'll see if I can copy it and put it here for everyone to see.

I would love to check it out, I cant see how he is running 14.5 w/ a sc. something doesnt add up...they run that or better bone stock??

[Bimmer This]

see if this works? This is one of his runs.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1456850552797
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1456844832654

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by Penn999

I would love to check it out, I cant see how he is running 14.5 w/ a sc. something doesnt add up...they run that or better bone stock??

He has a turbo. They don't run that fast up here! Here's one with his frount mount IC. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1456856232939

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

He has a turbo. They don't run that fast up here!

Ahhh, I c why now...you are a mile above sea level. Dealing with the same thing as AR. GOTCHA. that explains a lot. It prompted me to log into facebook which i cant do at work. I will check it out when i get home, little do they know this(e90post) is like crack compared to facebook. lol Thanks for the link.

[pikemike420]

If the S2K is turbo and you are turbo doesn't that even the playing field though?

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by pikemike420

If the S2K is turbo and you are turbo doesn't that even the playing field though?

No, because the s2k is running a bigger turbo and therefore is affected more by the elevation. Our little mitsubishi turbos arent as affected by the air. Do some reading on AR single turbo. There are tons of explanations of this. I could tell you but I dont wanna repeat what they already wrote and had this HUGE debate about it how much power the kit was actually making for those of us near sea level.

[pikemike420]

Originally Posted by Penn999

No, because the s2k is running a bigger turbo and therefore is affected more by the elevation. Our little mitsubishi turbos arent as affected by the air. Do some reading on AR single turbo. There are tons of explanations of this. I could tell you but I dont wanna repeat what they already wrote and had this HUGE debate about it how much power the kit was actually making for those of us near sea level.

Wasnt aware he was running a big turbo. I know all about DA's and how turbos are affected by altitude (even though i am in florida)

[Ghines1279]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

I had V4 with DCI's back then. The owner of the S2000 claims that he was over 360 hp.

i believe it, A stock s2000 has REALLY short gears, i would demo one and 6th gear maxes out at like 130-140 i think and thats at like 9k rpms. 6th gear is an overdrive i think, cause it would take FOREVER. All the other gears are quick, if the drivetrain is stock, he/she would have an extra shift or two.

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by pikemike420

If the S2K is turbo and you are turbo doesn't that even the playing field though?

Not really, the S2K should have a power to weight advantage over my 335.

Originally Posted by Penn999

No, because the s2k is running a bigger turbo and therefore is affected more by the elevation. Our little mitsubishi turbos arent as affected by the air. Do some reading on AR single turbo. There are tons of explanations of this. I could tell you but I dont wanna repeat what they already wrote and had this HUGE debate about it how much power the kit was actually making for those of us near sea level.

Technically, it's should be the other way around. Smaller turbos are affected more then a larger turbo.

Originally Posted by Ghines1279

i believe it, A stock s2000 has REALLY short gears, i would demo one and 6th gear maxes out at like 130-140 i think and thats at like 9k rpms. 6th gear is an overdrive i think, cause it would take FOREVER. All the other gears are quick, if the drivetrain is stock, he/she would have an extra shift or two.

S2000's run a 411 gear radio which makes them a dog. I knew some people who put 444's or 457's which made a big difference in acceleration.

[pikemike420]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

Not really, the S2K should have a power to weight advantage over my 335.

I meant in regards to both being adversely affected by the altitude.

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by pikemike420

I meant in regards to both being adversely affected by the altitude.

Oh sorry, yes you are correct. Where you guys able to check out the videos?

[Brey335i]

My friend informs me that the S2000 you guys showed is incredibly slow, that stock ones are able to do 13.9 (slower than a 335i still), but that turbos can easily hit the 11's.

Here's a link to take a look at:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda--S2000-Drag-Racing.html

[Ghines1279]

from the dig, you got an s2000 all day even with normal mods (intake, exhaust ect.) From a roll its a diff story, they are HP monsters. Especially when they hit Vtech

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

My friend informs me that the S2000 you guys showed is incredibly slow, that stock ones are able to do 13.9 (slower than a 335i still), but that turbos can easily hit the 11's.

Here's a link to take a look at:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda--S2000-Drag-Racing.html

Yeah, properly built S2000's. Not this one.

[wchoy]

yea something is up with that s2k. i got smoked crazy bad by a turbo one from a roll...

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by wchoy

yea something is up with that s2k. i got smoked crazy bad by a turbo one from a roll...

Yeah, we have some around here that runs 10's.