Vishnu N54 Fuel System Research Part 2

prelude2perfect · 04-12-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

In part 3, I'll show pics of all the various contraptions we fabricated

The closer we dug into it, the more work ended up being required. We tested several options.

What a tease

Rob@RBTurbo · 04-12-2011, 03:33 PM

Wait, what kind of numbers did you get from the EKP in terms of it's peak output capabilities to the LPFP? (ie. Was 11v the best you could get out of it?)

shockin330i · 04-12-2011, 03:33 PM

subscribed.

secretsquirrel · 04-12-2011, 03:43 PM

Subscribed. Setting my expectations on there being 4 parts so I wont be waiting for the climax to happen in part 3.

bimmertt · 04-12-2011, 03:44 PM

Is no one here concerned about the decrease in the LPFP performance after only a YEAR????

chingy24 · 04-12-2011, 03:47 PM

Great work Shiv!! Can't wait for part 3 and oh yeah that METH KIT!!! This money is burning a hole in my pocket.

jpsimon · 04-12-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertt

Is no one here concerned about the decrease in the LPFP performance after only a YEAR????

well hopefully soon that won't be an issue!

Aridk · 04-12-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'd never put a walbro 255 (high pressure) in a car again. We used to sell them for our Subaru turbo kits back in the day. Out of 100 that would be delivered to me, at least 10 just wouldn't work. And out of the remaining 90, at least 20 would be returned/exchanged due to excessive whining.

Shiv

Great article, and I´m happy to see we´re (Vishnu-you are) finnaly geting somewhere with the fueling issues

But I would really hate if a whining fp would be the downside of this upgrade

Brey335i · 04-12-2011, 03:56 PM

I'm thinking 4 parts also. Part 3 will revolve around the various upgrades tested and the results. And then part 4 will be the conclusion that will most likely introduce a new Vishnu product

mithiral67 · 04-12-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertt

Is no one here concerned about the decrease in the LPFP performance after only a YEAR????

This analysis does not prove that older pump performed worse due to age or that these pumps loss 11% productivity after one year. Only after a larger population test with control pumps confirmed to have similar productivity are allowed to have some sit for a year and some used day to day for a year and subsequent proof they vary would I place reliance on that conclusion.

vasillalov · 04-12-2011, 04:04 PM

I am most intrigued!

TurboSid · 04-12-2011, 04:16 PM

product and price better be in part 3... otherwise i'll just be sad

Joshboody · 04-12-2011, 04:20 PM

does the hpfp need the 72psi for its pickup, or is there some type of reservoir in the hpfp... ie larger volume that reduces pressure?

Brian135i · 04-12-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

I'm thinking 4 parts also. Part 3 will revolve around the various upgrades tested and the results. And then part 4 will be the conclusion that will most likely introduce a new Vishnu product

I think your right. I can't wait, for more info and $$.

mrquick68 · 04-12-2011, 04:21 PM

Great read Shiv! I'm excited to see what you come up with.

As a side note, I don't hear my LPFP prime everytime i open the door. Only some times? I wonder if its "prime" function is based purely on pressure seen at the HPFP, and if it drops below a certian value (x), then it primes open seeing some defined activity with the vehicle?

ianthegreat · 04-12-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SennaZ

What's the best price for a lpfp? ...in case they turn out to be an expendable part running at higher voltages.

+1

shockin330i · 04-12-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrquick68

Great read Shiv! I'm excited to see what you come up with.

As a side note, I don't hear my LPFP prime everytime i open the door. Only some times? I wonder if its "prime" function is based purely on pressure seen at the HPFP, and if it drops below a certian value (x), then it primes open seeing some defined activity with the vehicle?

Sometimes it will prime when you unlock your car.

Fernflex · 04-12-2011, 04:48 PM

to be continued!

Syndicategt · 04-12-2011, 04:52 PM

can't wait to see part III

shockin330i · 04-12-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernflex

to be continued!

I feel like I'm watching the harry potter movies all over again.... lol

phazedkid · 04-12-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mithiral67

This analysis does not prove that older pump performed worse due to age or that these pumps loss 11% productivity after one year. Only after a larger population test with control pumps confirmed to have similar productivity are allowed to have some sit for a year and some used day to day for a year and subsequent proof they vary would I place reliance on that conclusion.

+1
Also keep in mind that the 1 yr old pump is from Vishnu's shop car. It was probably working overtime from day 1.

Not saying all other pumps should be fine. We just shouldn't generalize the durability of all LPFPs from a sample size of 1.

Although I'll admit that I personally find it a bit alarming.

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