[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

I'd have to see it in the metal first... if it's X1 sized = dealbreaker... new X3 is kinda large, so not expecting it to be bigger than that...

[Chris.G]

I thought the five door would be close to X3 size...really for work and pleasure i need minimum X3 dimensions. Devo'd as i really like the design...

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

I'd have to see it in the metal first... if it's X1 sized = dealbreaker... new X3 is kinda large, so not expecting it to be bigger than that...

Originally Posted by Chris.G

I thought the five door would be close to X3 size...really for work and pleasure i need minimum X3 dimensions. Devo'd as i really like the design...

From the stats on caradvice, IIRC the car is about 10mm shorter than an X1...which is tiny.

[Jeef Beef]

Just looked up the eBrochure for both cars -

BMW X1: 4453mm
Evoque (3 door): 4355mm
Evoque (5 door): 4365mm

The Evoque 5 door is a full 90mm shorter than an X1. For comparison my 1er coupe is 4360mm which is actually LONGER than an Evoque 3 door, and only 5mm shorter than the 5 door.

The bloody thing is TINY.

[Rivenscyr]

mmm would still need to see one in the flesh

im picturing a rav4-like car

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Just looked up the eBrochure for both cars -

BMW X1: 4453mm
Evoque (3 door): 4355mm
Evoque (5 door): 4365mm

The Evoque 5 door is a full 90mm shorter than an X1. For comparison my 1er coupe is 4360mm which is actually LONGER than an Evoque 3 door, and only 5mm shorter than the 5 door.

The bloody thing is TINY.

FARK THAT! No way i am even bothering lol! 5 door and smaller then X1...not even midgets would bother.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Just looked up the eBrochure for both cars -

BMW X1: 4453mm
Evoque (3 door): 4355mm
Evoque (5 door): 4365mm

The Evoque 5 door is a full 90mm shorter than an X1. For comparison my 1er coupe is 4360mm which is actually LONGER than an Evoque 3 door, and only 5mm shorter than the 5 door.

The bloody thing is TINY.

weird dimensions wtf. and amazing that 20s are an option lol.

[Jeef Beef]

My 135i literally has a bigger passenger compartment than the Evoque

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Just got back from the LR dealer, lots to report on!

1. Sizing
After all this talk of how the car is going to look like a high riding 1series or something, well it's built on a LR Freelander platform and has an identical wheelbase. The overhangs are rather short though which is why the numbers indicate such a short overall length.. but it's going to have a very similar size to the Freelander. They even use the same back seat (for the 5door).
The rear will be rather sloping though, so if you stand at the C pillar/D pillar, you'll be able to look across the roof of the car.


2. Arrival date
33 cars are coming to Aus in November. Most are spoken for but still some available for the current year.
5 cars will be available for test drives in Aug/Sep.

3. Options & Pricing
Well this is a sub 60k car.. but I specc'd the basic options in my hypothetical build and OTR price was $92k:
- SD4 engine (140kw diesel), auto transmission (manual would be 2.5k less)
- Dynamic (2k cheaper than the pure, but the best looking on the outside by far. Has that good looking lower front air intake and body coloured lower mouldings)
- Metallic paint (white would be $1.5k less)
- Tech pack (nav, xenons, sunroof etc, $5.9k option)

The other option available on the Dynamic model is a the dynamic plus pack (a further $6k or something). The only feautre of this that caught my eye was absolutely awesome seats. The base seats are pretty sport bucket units already but these ones are like recaro style... like something out of an Audi RS model.

4. Performance
The 140kw diesel with auto tranny is rated 0-100 in 8.5 secs. Manual for some reason is 1.5secs slower... go figure.

The 190kw petrol is rated at 7.6secs with the auto tranny.

Fuel consumption for the diesels are mid 6s (therefore you pay less LCT on the diesels) and the petrol was sub 10.

By the way the car is expected to be about 100-150kg lighter than a freelander... so with the freelander coming in at 1.8tonne, if the car weighs 1.7tonnes, that's not too bad

5. Other stuff
As part of their preferential corporate program etc etc I'd be entitled to 3 years free servicing (big bonus).

Overall, well now that I know it's going to have similar dimensions to a freelander it's back on my radar... just bummed about the price cause I was hoping for 70-80k.
It'll definitely look good in the metal. Sloping rear may take some getting used to but I'm sure these will sell.
I'm still tempted to put a deposit on a car. As long as you order a popular colour (black/grey/white) the deposit is refundable... dealer said if I ordered the electric green one with green interior i'd have to be committed to it lol.

[Rivenscyr]

Freelanders are pretty roomy
I've had a go at a fair few freelanders and they are perfect for daily driving, high seating posistion, torquey engine, very flat cornering ability for a car on stilts but the steering is so fucking over-assisted

Im going to have a look when they arrive in the flesh.
Need to find my lil brother a cool 4WD

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Rivenscyr

Freelanders are pretty roomy
I've had a go at a fair few freelanders and they are perfect for daily driving, high seating posistion, torquey engine, very flat cornering ability for a car on stilts but the steering is so fucking over-assisted

Im going to have a look when they arrive in the flesh.
Need to find my lil brother a cool 4WD

I don't think it will be as roomy - the FL2 is a box, the Evoque looks sexy. Just compare the interior space of an X5 to and X6 and you'll see the MASSIVE difference. I can barely fit in the back seat of the X6 height wise, I doubt you could fit anything other than children in the back of the Evoque with that slanting roofline.

For that much money...I can't justify a sexed up FL. Engines aren't that great IMO and gives pretty poor performance. Needs a 6. I'd pocket the extra $10k and grab an X3 30d instead. Nowhere near as sexy but man...that's as steep premium with options more ridiculous than BMW.

[Chris.G]

ROFL at electric green...Thanks for posting this bmrox, freelander size is doable for me as well but i will wait and see the actual car in person when it arrives. Diesel is a bit of a slug though...petrol will no doubt be thirsty, with my driving at least. Options are hefty as hell and those seats i remember seeing them online look absolutely awesome. Did they give you a catalogue? Which dealer did you visit?

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Chris.G

ROFL at electric green...Thanks for posting this bmrox, freelander size is doable for me as well but i will wait and see the actual car in person when it arrives. Diesel is a bit of a slug though...petrol will no doubt be thirsty, with my driving at least. Options are hefty as hell and those seats i remember seeing them online look absolutely awesome. Did they give you a catalogue? Which dealer did you visit?

Evoque catalogue: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&so...WOmAqz-arivWkw

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Yep I've got a catalogue... unfortunately doesn't have pics of the seats.

I'll scan/upload some images from the catalogue at home tonight.

Options aren't too bad... you def need the tech pack (6k)... auto for 2.5k is alright, as is metallic paint for 1.5k... but I mean that's 10k on top of the sticker.

It's more likely I'll wait a little while... at least until dealers start giving discounts off the RRP.

Jeff it definitely is a bit more expensive than comparable vehicles.. but it's damn sexy. Rear will have less headroom than FL but that was never the issue for me, rather it was if the car is going to look like a chode or not.

[Rivenscyr]

I still dont see stu driving a car like this...

I feel your more suited to a coupe (much like your current car)

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

these are the seats with the dynamic plus pack...



standard seats hardly look like they are wanting for support though.. AND the leather in the RR Evoque is the same as in the RR & RR sport... it's called winstone leather or something.

Dynamic evoque gets perforated leather with two tone colouring
Prestige model gets single colour non-perforated (looks better imo) but you can't swap 'em around

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by Rivenscyr

I still dont see stu driving a car like this...

I feel your more suited to a coupe (much like your current car)

rofl I just get exicted by new things...

[Rivenscyr]

Get a G-Wagon, I saw one going through Chinatown last friday
Was talking to someone and ran out of the cafe to have a better look

they are

PIMP AS FUCK

but retail at 150k+


*Edit
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...2914&silo=1011

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Rivenscyr

Get a G-Wagon, I saw one going through Chinatown last friday
Was talking to someone and ran out of the cafe to have a better look

they are

PIMP AS FUCK

but retail at 150k+


*Edit
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...2914&silo=1011

More like 220k, who the fuck wants the shitty diesel one?

Stu, totally agreed on the looks and the interior quality of the Evoque. However...the engines and price are real killers. 4cyl engines don't make the cut.

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

More like 220k, who the fuck wants the shitty diesel one?

Stu, totally agreed on the looks and the interior quality of the Evoque. However...the engines and price are real killers. 4cyl engines don't make the cut.

Agreed Jeef, as you said the X3 30d does make more sense...M-Sports 30d that is.

[sbce90]

Just get an Amarok.

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by SBC

Just get an Amarok.

hahaha! Yeah and throw the fatimas on the tray...