Vishnu Single Turbo Development and more aggressive Procede v5 calibrations

turb0mik3 · 09-26-2011, 09:37 PM

Didn't completely read the thread, but are there supposedly any upgrades to the fuel system or are you just slapping a bigger turbo on and trying to "tune" around the fuel issues? Because if I want to push 550whp+ (which I think is your goal) the fuel system needs to be managed. I don't trust a direct injection car with a sub-par fuel injection system supporting 550whp with up'd boost.

DaFish · 09-26-2011, 09:49 PM

So these beta maps are for stock turbos, full bolt ons (dci, dps, FMIC, meth)

And they will increase the low midrange boost
And they will increase the meth flow
And traction control comes on in third now

Sign me up. Shiv, can I try them out? Do you need an email?

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chrisw335i · 09-26-2011, 09:52 PM

sweet..ill take 20-30 more lbft anyday of the week!!

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Me too

But luckily in this case, we have full timing and more boost. Made possible by more meth as well.

It will apply to non-meth guys as well. But it's the meth guys that are going to get the most bang so to speak. And we are talking 40-50lbft more in the midrange than the current maps. Non meth guys may "only" see 20-30lbft more.

shockin330i · 09-26-2011, 09:53 PM

Good stuff shiv.
I'll sit back and wait for n55 love.

OpenFlash · 09-26-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by weeensunn

soooo how would this turbo upgrade compare to the ASR upgrade?

More power. More expense. More panties being thrown at you.

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

Didn't completely read the thread, but are there supposedly any upgrades to the fuel system or are you just slapping a bigger turbo on and trying to "tune" around the fuel issues? Because if I want to push 550whp+ (which I think is your goal) the fuel system needs to be managed. I don't trust a direct injection car with a sub-par fuel injection system supporting 550whp with up'd boost.

I believe we have the fuel system sorted out. Which is why we are taking a stab at the single turbo at this time.

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Originally Posted by DaFish

So these beta maps are for stock turbos, full bolt ons (dci, dps, FMIC, meth)

And they will increase the low midrange boost
And they will increase the meth flow
And traction control comes on in third now

Sign me up. Shiv, can I try them out? Do you need an email?

Subscribed

We should be to the point of wider release later this week. Email me and i'll keep you posted

pcockley · 09-26-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

More power. More expense. More panties being thrown at you.

I believe we have the fuel system sorted out. Which is why we are taking a stab at the single turbo at this time.

We should be to the point of wider release later this week. Email me and i'll keep you posted

Really, I know there was a thread a while ago where you go to great lengths pulling apart the HPFP etc, but I thought it died.

Any more info on the fuel fix???????

Plus a somewhat related question, if you could get 98ron gas would you still need meth? I do not like the whole meth setup at all and would like to avoid it at almost all costs

OpenFlash · 09-26-2011, 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=weeensunn;10497429]

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

More power. More expense. More panties being thrown at you.

I waited almost 3 months.. for the ASR's and the actuator had problems so i had to wait longer... turbos just got installled and still didn't get my car back yet and now you come out with this... im so depressed...=( but this is awesome!

Good work Shiv!

heh... don't be depressed. This is not an available product. This is just an in-house test at this point. If you were to wait for a single turbo option, you're wait would be very long at this point. Enjoy the ASR turbos. They will definitely fit your needs.

XPO186 · 09-26-2011, 10:28 PM

so is the big single being implemented on the shop car for the sole purpose of testing the fuel system?

any plans of going commercial with kit?

what turbo did you go with?

Joshboody · 09-26-2011, 10:34 PM

Looks good. We can't really do this ourselves due to the IC mapping... which is based on the 100% correction map? Will you be adding another ignition table? Currently if 2.5 users wanted to advance they would have to zero the table and run 100% IC right

I need to get my rev2.5, so I can even think about it.

PlutoniumTans · 09-26-2011, 11:10 PM

So much more torque for meth guys ? Non pwm will still run m10 nozzle ? or dual m7 nozzle would be more recommended ?

OpenFlash · 09-26-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshboody

Looks good. We can't really do this ourselves due to the IC mapping... which is based on the 100% correction map? Will you be adding another ignition table? Currently if 2.5 users wanted to advance they would have to zero the table and run 100% IC right

I need to get my rev2.5, so I can even think about it.

We have made some mapping concessions before with respect to mapping. Just to keep things user-tuning friendly and flexible. In the case of the new aggressive FBO/Meth maps, you will have two very different-looking ignition tables. One of them will represent pump gas application. The other will represent meth application. This latter one will show mostly advance under boost. Both maps will run at 100% IC with default settings.

Shiv

Bakeme521 · 09-26-2011, 11:19 PM

oh snap

jippii ensio · 09-27-2011, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We have made some mapping concessions before with respect to mapping. Just to keep things user-tuning friendly and flexible. In the case of the new aggressive FBO/Meth maps, you will have two very different-looking ignition tables. One of them will represent pump gas application. The other will represent meth application. This latter one will show mostly advance under boost. Both maps will run at 100% IC with default settings.

Shiv

How does this work for upgraded twins? No specific map for them?

FirstBMWLA · 09-27-2011, 01:23 AM

Sorry if this was supposed to be clear.
Does this benefit only FBO meth users or 91oct FBO users as well?

Mahhvinn · 09-27-2011, 01:24 AM

Subscribed.

turb0mik3 · 09-27-2011, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I believe we have the fuel system sorted out. Which is why we are taking a stab at the single turbo at this time.

Hey Shiv,

This is great news. As someone said above, there was an old thread on it and haven't heard an update (or don't check regularly enough). Will this upgraded fuel system be offered in the near future and separately from the turbo upgrade???

OpenFlash · 09-27-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

Hey Shiv,

This is great news. As someone said above, there was an old thread on it and haven't heard an update (or don't check regularly enough). Will this upgraded fuel system be offered in the near future and separately from the turbo upgrade???

We fully expect to sell it as a stand-alone product when it is ready.

lamia2super · 09-27-2011, 01:59 AM

[QUOTE=weeensunn;10497429]

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

More power. More expense. More panties being thrown at you.

I waited almost 3 months.. for the ASR's and the actuator had problems so i had to wait longer... turbos just got installled and still didn't get my car back yet and now you come out with this... im so depressed...=( but this is awesome!

Good work Shiv!

Bro I love my ASR turbos ! Driving around and hearing them spool up gives me gooses bumps every time lol

enrita · 09-27-2011, 02:18 AM

the single gonna be sick!

Aridk · 09-27-2011, 02:46 AM

I´m still on the stock clutch, so useing these maps would proberly be pushing my luck

Can someone help me with a link to these ASR turbos only tecnical post I can find is the way old ones where Shiv helped them set it up, seems there has been several modifications to the turbos since the. Asr don´t even have anything on their homepage. Thx

OpenFlash · 09-27-2011, 02:56 AM

Just got back from a late night drive to Mexico. There is a Hooters down there and I like their hot wings.

Did some very aggressive runs on SIHK335's 6AT running this new map. For your enjoyment....

3rd to 4th gear (~80mph to 120mph)

2nd to 3rd to 4th to 5th (~50 to 140mph)

2nd to 3rd to 4th to 5th (~50mph to 140mph!)

Yes, this on an FBO 6at running secondary HF cats. On 91 and PWM Meth (70/30 mix)

This is perhaps the fastest stock turbo car I've even driven. Gets up to 130mph effortlessly and quickly. And, more importantly, with the low IATs and octane enhancement afforded by meth, the engine is happy.

Cheers,
Shiv

Pepe_pr · 09-27-2011, 03:28 AM

Someday the N55 will feel that way

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Aridk Lieutenant 7 Rep 520 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark iTrader: (0)	I´m still on the stock clutch, so useing these maps would proberly be pushing my luck Can someone help me with a link to these ASR turbos only tecnical post I can find is the way old ones where Shiv helped them set it up, seems there has been several modifications to the turbos since the. Asr don´t even have anything on their homepage. Thx
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