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      02-21-2013, 09:20 PM   #23
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Hi Sick,

I've used the NT05s and Michelin Pilot Super Sports before on the street and track. As you remember from Shift S3ctor I'm running R888s on the street now.

IMHO:
R888 > NT05 > SS

The Super Sports did not last long, I destroyed them pretty quickly.

The NT05s were pretty good, they were sticky even after abuse. I think I might use them again.

Obviously the R888s are the best, but also $. They also seem to take longer to heat up.

Go with the NT05s. My 2c.

See you at the track.

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Hey Pete,

Thanks for the input. Ordered some NT05s for fairly cheap(520$ shipped brand new). We'll see how they do. The Nitto NT555s are definitely not cutting it at my power level anymore... Might go a bit wider than 275 next time too
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My nitto invos got better traction than PSS shockingly....nitto's where bigger so that may be a factor. PSS are a bit better in the rain, nitto less noise but a bit to much feed back. I am thinking of going your route to.
Wow that's the exact opposite experience I had.

PSS grip better than Invos BY FAR. The invos ran NARROWER - I had both lined up next to each other in 275 width and the Nitto was 1/2" skinnier. Never rubbed with Invos and had to roll my rear fenders with the PSS in the same size on the same wheel.

The Nittos were softer and better for bad roads but both tires are quiet. The Nittos lasted me 8,000 miles on the rear.. very very soft but the huge rain channels don't make for much contact patch for straight line runs. Nittos are WAAY better in the rain (HUGE inner channels).
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Wow that's the exact opposite experience I had.

PSS grip better than Invos BY FAR. The invos ran NARROWER - I had both lined up next to each other in 275 width and the Nitto was 1/2" skinnier. Never rubbed with Invos and had to roll my rear fenders with the PSS in the same size on the same wheel.

The Nittos were softer and better for bad roads but both tires are quiet. The Nittos lasted me 8,000 miles on the rear.. very very soft but the huge rain channels don't make for much contact patch for straight line runs. Nittos are WAAY better in the rain (HUGE inner channels).
The PSS have huge shoulders so they run bigger....my nittos are 285 and the PSS are 265 that I was comparing....I was spinning PSS at nearly 90-100 MPH badly...nitto not as much but these are a wider tire...maybe weather had something to do with it...both where tested in colder temps. My PSS where much better in the rain LOL! MY PSS where a lot more comfortable BUT the PSS where a 235/35/19 and 265/30/10 and my current nitto are 245/30/20 and 285/25/20. Would like to try a 295 wich will fit easily....I have a 5MM spacer on my set-up now with room still to go. My Buddy has a set 0f 295/25/20 PSS that i want to see how the traction is, maybe it is better? we will see!
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I've got DRs for track days. I'm looking for street tires with the most stick. Purpose is not to spin through 2nd and 3rd gear
I just got the NT05R drag radials and running them on the 17 inch Apex wheels I got in the group buy. I am unable to get them to spin and they are fine on the road so far as a DD. I also drove them in some rain with very wet roads with out any problems, but you definitely do not want to get crazy while driving in the rain with them. For a reference I spun in 2nd and in 3rd with Michelin pilot sports.

Bought them here were on sale for 184 a piece.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/nitto-...275-40-17.html
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I am running an RE-11 and I absolutely love them. I know those weren't in your choices but they are slightly cheaper than pilot sports and they are amazing.
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Guys keep in mind we are talking about 500 wheel hp car here... So where some of u might not spin, i'd be doing a burn out
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And i also just realized that my noobness stroke again. I just noticed that i purchased 275/35/19 instead of 275/30/19. I dont know too much about the tires and the offset, but will this mess anything up? Car is dropped on H & R sport springs with rolled fenders.
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And i also just realized that my noobness stroke again. I just noticed that i purchased 275/35/19 instead of 275/30/19. I dont know too much about the tires and the offset, but will this mess anything up? Car is dropped on H & R sport springs with rolled fenders.
May be too tall looking, i run 275/30/19 on my volk g2's.

NT05R i use on my 17's is a true drag radial I am fbo cobb tuned trapping 117+ in the quarter I really think you would like the tire, they would definitely help u harness your power but doubt you could get in a 19 without being wider.

there is a difference in the NT01 vs the NT05R the R is comparable to the Mickey Thomson DR's .

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Advan AD08 or Potenza RE-11 are great for street use
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i got nt05s and love them
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you just ordered a taller tire, they may fit, but id return them and get what you intended. The taller sidewall will actually aid in traction however I hesitate calling a 35 series tire tall....at all.

If you want ultimate traction, get r888. plain and simple.
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I am running an RE-11 and I absolutely love them. I know those weren't in your choices but they are slightly cheaper than pilot sports and they are amazing.
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Advan AD08 or Potenza RE-11 are great for street use
AD08 is very bad in the rain..
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Kinda late to the game here, but I'm pretty amazed with the RE-11's I've been running on my C6. They hook up surprisingly well for a street car making ~700 rwhp and ~600 rwtq. When they were new, I think they were almost as good on the street as my 17" Hoosier drag radials -- except they aren't scary to drive on, handle great, and have lasted very well.

For a good, sticky DD tire, the RE-11 gets my vote.
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H&R Sport Springs should not lower the car enough to cause rubbing. However, the "proper" size would be a 30.
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Hey guys, kind of late to the party here... So here are my :twocents:

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Which ones are the stickiest in your PERSONAL EXPERIENCE?

Nitto NT05, Michelin PS2 or Michelin Pilot Super Sport?

Not really worried about the longevity of the tire, only worried about the amount of sticky icky
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Guys keep in mind we are talking about 500 wheel hp car here... So where some of u might not spin, i'd be doing a burn out
That is a lot of power that you are trying to put down! There aren't too many street tires that will be able to handle that if you have a heavy foot... My pick goes to the Michelin Pilot Super Sport PSS. Car and Driver agrees with me as it picked it as it's Monster of Grip Winner in a recent comparison test where it beat out the Star Spec, R1R, RS3, S04, and AD08: http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-sport-page-10

The other thing to look at is which cars chose to go with the PSS as OEM: all new BMW M's, Shelby GT 500 SuperSnake and Shelby 1000, Koenigsegg Agera R, Gumpert Apollo, new Corvette Stingray, Ferrari 458 Italia (which Ferrari pushed for a special early release of the PSS), 599GTO, FF, F12 Berlinetta... And some of those cars put down some insane power!

I have had them on my M for about a year now where I have driven them hard in many different conditions. I have also autocrossed on them, ran a few canyon runs (including an epic run down Hwy1 through Big Sur!), and have had a few track sessions and they have never cease to impress me!

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Wow that's the exact opposite experience I had.

PSS grip better than Invos BY FAR. The invos ran NARROWER - I had both lined up next to each other in 275 width and the Nitto was 1/2" skinnier. Never rubbed with Invos and had to roll my rear fenders with the PSS in the same size on the same wheel.

The Nittos were softer and better for bad roads but both tires are quiet. The Nittos lasted me 8,000 miles on the rear.. very very soft but the huge rain channels don't make for much contact patch for straight line runs. Nittos are WAAY better in the rain (HUGE inner channels).
i must say I am wrong, I tested a st of PSS 295 and they are better than my invos, actually quite a bit better... I will be going with these this spring again.
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Super sports! The best tires all around!
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I ordered nitto NT05s, should have them wednesday. Will post back here my 2c once i get a chance to abuse them a little.
sweet, love to here your thought since we are at the same power levels, sucks spinning at 90-100 mph doesn't lol!!
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Toyo R888's are some of the best street legal nearly R compound tire I have ever used. And they are decent in the rain.
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