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      11-12-2007, 12:42 PM   #23
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So about a 35 hp increase..and a 41 tq increase
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      11-12-2007, 12:43 PM   #24
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Well for the money I'm not complaining
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if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2
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click,,,,,,,,,, seems like a light switch just went on.
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beats the hell outta me guys
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Alpine, whats the difference is in STD correction. 304 SAE might be 310 STD
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Good job. Were you on 93 octane?
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Taken from Terry's website.

the JB2 offers additional boost and significantly richer air/fuel targets. Gains average 35-45 rear wheel horsepower and 45-60 rear wheel torque.

What fuel are you runing 91 or 93?
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if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2
Most xede dynos have been 310-320 whp range..nowhere near v2 numbers
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if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2

What's more important than max HP figures is the area under the power curve. Anyone have the Xede/v2 power curves handy?
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Those results sound about right....Nice job....
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So about a 35 hp increase..and a 41 tq increase
If you dyno'd right after installing jb2 your ECU might not have had time to adjust.
Maybe you need to get another dyno in a few days to see your real gain.
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if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2
You really have to look at the delta to get a better picture. Some of these higher HP #s probably had a better baseline dyno than 269 hp. Look back at Mr. 5s procede 1.47 with downpipes...he only had 326hp. I have seen stock PRocedes put down in the 330s. It's just a matter of what was gained, not the absolute HP #. 35hp is as advertised for a JB2 with no other mods.

I haven't heard much about JB2 hanging with V2s other than one match up where JB2R walked a V2. The JB2 is on par with PRocede 1.47 and the Xede, but I don't think there is enough matchups with V2 to make a fair comparison.
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Drag times are all about conditions and drivers. A 40-150mph race using the similarly equipped cars is the way to go. Remember with the sport package, you have heavier wheels, tires, bigger brakes and heavier adjustable seats. A fully equiped car vs. a bare bones car can weigh a good 50-100lbs more I'm guessing...
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What's more important than max HP figures is the area under the power curve. Anyone have the Xede/v2 power curves handy?
Good point Sambonator. The JB2 curve mimics the stock curve, just with more power. The V2 curve is more peaky, but definitely improved over 1.47.


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Im waiting to see 'ADHD' dyno results! JBS2 + DP's
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Im waiting to see 'ADHD' dyno results! JBS2 + DP's
Judging by CEAs track performance, the results should be impressive.
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call me crazy but i don't think 35whp/41wtrq is bad at all for $375...

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call me crazy but i don't think 35whp/41wtrq is bad at all for $375...

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Your Crazy.......just messin with you, its a great deal for that amount....
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That's substantially lower than I expected. With all the bench racing on here, I thought these cars were at least as fast as 1.47 or AA XEDE cars, but I think a 1.47 or XEDE car would walk away from a JB2 car.

I made 70whp with my v2 over stock, and on a Dyno Dynamics! With the 2.0.2 map, I expect at least 360whp on a Dynojet, and I'm 100% stock otherwise.

The fact the thing doesn't control fueling is the nail in the coffin to me.
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