[C.Pop]

Originally Posted by 007_e350

some members have noticed an increased lag with 7".. do you guys agree

No, I do not agree.

It's a tiny volume increase when you compare it to how much air is flowing through the system. Just because people "notice" something doesn't mean they aren't just making shit up based on erroneous ideas they believe.

[Jklad]

Never noticed any lag after installing my 7in. Only noticed moah powah

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by uberbeast21

I see all of these intercoolers such as cobb and ER but then theres the vrsf 7 inch which is bigger and seems to have great reviews is there anything that I am missing here because it is so much cheaper than the competition?

nope you got it name and price is only difference. which name is arguable because they have such a good rep for service and quality tiago is great and always there to help. honestly i couldnt justify spending so much more money for something that does the same thing.

[silver07335i]

Originally Posted by 007_e350

some members have noticed an increased lag with 7".. do you guys agree

Nope, I don't feel any noticeable increase of lag from stock FMIC to 7" FMIC upgrade.

[Welterweight]

Just installed Cobb AP on my 09 E92 335xi....whats the best map to run for stock car? I believe I have Aggressive Linear Throttle. Would Stock Throttle give better response? Also what is next best move for power? Intake, K&N filter, Pro Tune, FMIC???? Thanks!

[Seymour Boost]

Originally Posted by Welterweight

Just installed Cobb AP on my 09 E92 335xi....whats the best map to run for stock car? I believe I have Aggressive Linear Throttle. Would Stock Throttle give better response? Also what is next best move for power? Intake, K&N filter, Pro Tune, FMIC???? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I'd choose a FMIC over a downpipe any day of the week. The install is easier, cars runs more efficient, happier. No extra noise or issues that catless cars have like smell and the worry of inspection time, readiness codes, ETC.

You're selling yourself short not getting an FMIC.

The Cobb Stage 1 + FMIC map is actually faster then the Cobb Stage 2 Map for downpipes. IT's not hard to believe once you see how hot your intake air temps are and how inefficient the stock intercooler is even for a stock vehicle.

Even though E85 has a good octane kick that extra boost is also extra heat soak which is exponentially higher so back to back pulls are that much slower and power degrading.

The BOV is whatever, it doesn't add any power but the stock charge pipe will eventually crack.

There's your answer.

Add an intake/K&N if you want along with it. Changing out the stock airbox is not completely necessary, but might offer a marginal benefit.

[007_e350]

Originally Posted by Welterweight

Just installed Cobb AP on my 09 E92 335xi....whats the best map to run for stock car? I believe I have Aggressive Linear Throttle. Would Stock Throttle give better response? Also what is next best move for power? Intake, K&N filter, Pro Tune, FMIC???? Thanks!

I like stock better than linear, torquey, on the backend it has higher load values than linear I believe ... next is FMIC like everyone said here

[Welterweight]

I love this board you all are so helpful and fast to give help! Thanks so much

[007_e350]

guys I saw a -3.5 on the Timing Correction for the first time .. Cars stock running on ST stg1 Daily map ... If its outside temp related its a no brainer, but anything else I shd look at ?

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by 007_e350

guys I saw a -3.5 on the Timing Correction for the first time .. Cars stock running on ST stg1 Daily map ... If its outside temp related its a no brainer, but anything else I shd look at ?

could be a number of things. u could try to throw a little e85. it cleans up timing if its due to crappy gas.

[Fedorov]

I have a 7" VRSF FMIC (and aFe open air intake) and a COBB. Was satisfied with that but decided to get a pro tune (e-tune) from Pro Tuning Freaks. Nishan made the tune after my specifications which were basically:

* Wanted powerwise about 380-390 BHP, don't want to push the limits too much, not looking for maximum power. I'm concerned about the best possible "safety" and good engine management.

* Wanted a linear throttle feeling but not as stretched out as the COBB OTS maps with linear throtte.

To sum it up, I almost regret not getting a pro tune earlier. I was positively surprised at the end result even though I already had expectations of it being very good.

[Allen@MOTIV]

Originally Posted by 007_e350

guys I saw a -3.5 on the Timing Correction for the first time .. Cars stock running on ST stg1 Daily map ... If its outside temp related its a no brainer, but anything else I shd look at ?

Please get a datalog. If it was just a single 3.5 degree correction then it is perfectly fine. If it is across the board that becomes a different story.

[007_e350]

Originally Posted by Allen@PTF

Please get a datalog. If it was just a single 3.5 degree correction then it is perfectly fine. If it is across the board that becomes a different story.

Holy looks like its happening quite a bit... whats your email to send full excel file

RPM - IAT - Cyl4 Tim Cor - Cyl1 Tim - Boost
3649 106.25 0 4.5 11.91
3708 106.25 0 3.75 12.34
3725 106.25 0 3.75 12.77
3785 106.25 0 3 13.01
3797 106.25 0 3 13.32
3838 106.25 0 3.38 13.6
3896 107.6 0 -0.38 13.79
3887 107.6 0 0.38 13.99
3952 107.6 0 -1.5 14.15
3977 107.6 0 -1.5 14.22
4001 107.6 0 -4.5 14.19
3998 108.95 0 -5.62 14.34
4074 108.95 0 -6.38 15.13
4080 108.95 0 0 15.52
4075 108.95 0 13.5 12.26
4064 108.95 -3.38 15.75 8.1
4087 110.3 -6.75 18 5.19
4104 110.3 -6.75 19.5 3.82
4110 110.3 -6.38 21 2.96
4126 110.3 -6.38 15.38 2.37
3838 110.3 -6.38 6.75 2.13
3559 110.3 -6 9.38 2.05
3283 110.3 -6 21.38 1.9
3156 110.3 -5.62 21.75 1.78
3188 110.3 -5.62 18.75 1.66
3189 110.3 -5.25 32.25 1.43
3161 110.3 -5.25 36 1.47
3134 110.3 -4.88 34.88 1.5
3125 110.3 0 22.5 1.31
3104 110.3 0 19.12 1.19

[SSW]

Originally Posted by Pr335bob

Good info ! I'm on the fence of dps or fmic. Leaning toward fmic. Currently have Cobb only stage 1.

All I have is a K&N filter & Mishimoto FMIC using the Cobb AP3 Stage 1+FMIC map w/91 octane and my 2008 E90 Sport is already scary fast. I can go 60-100+ in the a blink of the eye and can pass cars like they are standing still. More than enough power for hwy and back road use.

Haven't dyno'd it but my setup is supposed to increase BHP by 30% to around 390. DP's will supposedly take you up to around 410-420, which to me is a marginal gain. So, really no need for DPs unless you just want to get max HP, intend to track your car and aren't worried about passing a smog test.

With the additional HP you can get with just an FMIC and Cobb AP3, the additional money spent would be better spent on improving the handling w/new shocks, springs, sway bars and/or tires than buying DPs. I already have the Sport Suspension, so I just added Koni FSDs and Michelin PPS tires and the car handles the additional speed like a slot car. Still get a little sway but not enough to make me want to add stiffer springs and/or sways yet.

[Allen@MOTIV]

Originally Posted by 007_e350

Holy looks like its happening quite a bit... whats your email to send full excel file

RPM - IAT - Cyl4 Tim Cor - Cyl1 Tim - Boost
3649 106.25 0 4.5 11.91
3708 106.25 0 3.75 12.34
3725 106.25 0 3.75 12.77
3785 106.25 0 3 13.01
3797 106.25 0 3 13.32
3838 106.25 0 3.38 13.6
3896 107.6 0 -0.38 13.79
3887 107.6 0 0.38 13.99
3952 107.6 0 -1.5 14.15
3977 107.6 0 -1.5 14.22
4001 107.6 0 -4.5 14.19
3998 108.95 0 -5.62 14.34
4074 108.95 0 -6.38 15.13
4080 108.95 0 0 15.52
4075 108.95 0 13.5 12.26
4064 108.95 -3.38 15.75 8.1
4087 110.3 -6.75 18 5.19
4104 110.3 -6.75 19.5 3.82
4110 110.3 -6.38 21 2.96
4126 110.3 -6.38 15.38 2.37
3838 110.3 -6.38 6.75 2.13
3559 110.3 -6 9.38 2.05
3283 110.3 -6 21.38 1.9
3156 110.3 -5.62 21.75 1.78
3188 110.3 -5.62 18.75 1.66
3189 110.3 -5.25 32.25 1.43
3161 110.3 -5.25 36 1.47
3134 110.3 -4.88 34.88 1.5
3125 110.3 0 22.5 1.31
3104 110.3 0 19.12 1.19

For forum use it's a lot easier to just use the www.datazap.me service

[Welterweight]

ok today I will get a drop in filter just to waste money...haha

Next up will be either FMIC or Charge pipe as my car is an 09 and could be leaking boost.....this will allow me to change maps on my Cobb AP

By the way Stock Throttle on Cobb Stage 1 aggressive is much better than Linear Throttle!!!!

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by Welterweight

ok today I will get a drop in filter just to waste money...haha

Next up will be either FMIC or Charge pipe as my car is an 09 and could be leaking boost.....this will allow me to change maps on my Cobb AP

By the way Stock Throttle on Cobb Stage 1 aggressive is much better than Linear Throttle!!!!

yup ST FTW hate linear lol

[007_e350]

Originally Posted by Allen@PTF

For forum use it's a lot easier to just use the www.datazap.me service

I uploaded but it wont graph it like it does... I made my own graph, is there anything else you guys wanna see besides Boost .. RPM was around 4500 when boost over 10 psi (Positive spikes are Boost PSI, negatives are timing pulls) note that cylinders 1, 4 & 5 got timing pulled only