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And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .
Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
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And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .
Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
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Don't park at LAX by the terminals. If I'm only going for the weekend or day trip I used to just park by the gates. One day got back from a day trip to SF. Tinted windows and no front plate ticket. It's head in parking so the fucker literally checked the front of my car that was facing a wall, lol.
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And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .
Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
Going towards 405 is a mess now, but heading east to BH from Manning Ave to Whittier Drive (where the old 76 is right by the BH sign) is like a racetrack. Now they hide on the side streets to clock with laser.

Something about West Hollywood's Parking Enforcement enrages me all the time.. I don't know how they come out of nowhere. I learned my lesson on the strip too now I just park at where O'Gara used to host Sunset GT so its out of sight of parking enforcement, I think you should do that as well they can't ticket you there for anything since its "private".

Oh yeah.. Ralphs.. I park at Target to take the elevator up there because there is always some shit show going on at their entrance.. Gotta love the people who stop on the one lane road in front of Trader Joes parking entrance as well. They're a breed of their own..
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And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .
Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
Going towards 405 is a mess now, but heading east to BH from Manning Ave to Whittier Drive (where the old 76 is right by the BH sign) is like a racetrack. Now they hide on the side streets to clock with laser.

Something about West Hollywood's Parking Enforcement enrages me all the time.. I don't know how they come out of nowhere. I learned my lesson on the strip too now I just park at where O'Gara used to host Sunset GT so its out of sight of parking enforcement, I think you should do that as well they can't ticket you there for anything since its "private".

Oh yeah.. Ralphs.. I park at Target to take the elevator up there because there is always some shit show going on at their entrance.. Gotta love the people who stop on the one lane road in front of Trader Joes parking entrance as well. They're a breed of their own..
I frequent Ministry of Coffee on that side street by Trader Joes in the mornings on my way to work, and that may be one of the worst side streets for people just parking wherever they want and causing an absolute mess!!
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And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .
Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
Oh they getcha on Olympic and a few blocks before Overland. I forgot his name but I used to live in Century City so he nailed me a couple times over the years. Motorcycle cop and deserving of ticket yes but everyone in the neighborhood knew him to be a prick.

One of my fondest memories was way back yesteryear sitting on Olympic and Beverly Glen heading west at the light and the dude next to me starts revving. Obnoxiously. I'd just gotten my second ticket from above cop and I knew chances were high he'd be sitting in his favorite perch. I gave a slight rev back, light turned green and he takes off leaving a patch. I legit waited to go until the car behind me honked and then made sure to slowly drive past with my windows down as he's sitting in his car waiting for the cop to get off his bike. I'll never forget you, Infiniti G37. Godspeed.
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Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
Oh they getcha on Olympic and a few blocks before Overland. I forgot his name but I used to live in Century City so he nailed me a couple times over the years. Motorcycle cop and deserving of ticket yes but everyone in the neighborhood knew him to be a prick.

One of my fondest memories was way back yesteryear sitting on Olympic and Beverly Glen heading west at the light and the dude next to me starts revving. Obnoxiously. I'd just gotten my second ticket from above cop and I knew chances were high he'd be sitting in his favorite perch. I gave a slight rev back, light turned green and he takes off leaving a patch. I legit waited to go until the car behind me honked and then made sure to slowly drive past with my windows down as he's sitting in his car waiting for the cop to get off his bike. I'll never forget you, Infiniti G37. Godspeed.
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Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…
I feel like you are talking about the Whole Foods on Gayley. And yes, don't forget about the tickets that city of West Hollywood gives when you are parked at the hill and god forbid your tires are not turned left enough on a uphill and right enough on a downhill.

At least LA and BH have the courtesy of waiting for your meter to expire, in West Hollywood by the time you walk out of your car pay for it and go sit at the restaurant the front license plate ticket is already on your windshield. I feel like you can never win lol..

Oh also lets not forget the speeding tickets they give on Wilshire Corridor since the posted speed is 35 for a 9 lane road (4 west bound, 4 east bound and 1 turning lane)
I've somehow never gotten a ticket on the Wilshire Corridor, but do tend to slow down now due to this insane construction…

And you're right about West Hollywood! A few years ago now I was parking and apparently a meter maid was nearby as when I was getting out to put money in the meter, he gave me a no-front plate ticket!! I had literally just pulled into the spot (on the sunset strip by Le Petit Four) and was exiting my car!

And they do that at Whole Foods, as well, but sometimes it's even worse at the Ralph's down the street on Le Conte (I think that's the street) going towards Hilgard.
Oh they getcha on Olympic and a few blocks before Overland. I forgot his name but I used to live in Century City so he nailed me a couple times over the years. Motorcycle cop and deserving of ticket yes but everyone in the neighborhood knew him to be a prick.

One of my fondest memories was way back yesteryear sitting on Olympic and Beverly Glen heading west at the light and the dude next to me starts revving. Obnoxiously. I'd just gotten my second ticket from above cop and I knew chances were high he'd be sitting in his favorite perch. I gave a slight rev back, light turned green and he takes off leaving a patch. I legit waited to go until the car behind me honked and then made sure to slowly drive past with my windows down as he's sitting in his car waiting for the cop to get off his bike. I'll never forget you, Infiniti G37. Godspeed.
Ohh G37s hahah. The G37S sedan was my first car, and looking back, I should have had a 328i or something less powerful (no issues with the car, no tickets, etc., I was just more of a d*ck than I should have been at times).

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Yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly (…using the catch-all violation 22350 CVC). The officer would just need to articulate why driving under the prima facie limit is causing a hazard. A person driving slowly while no other cars are on the road or in really light traffic wouldn't present a hazard.
Haven't read it in a while but as I recall there's also no specific speed limit associated either, so it doesn't matter if you're doing exactly the speed limit if everyone else is doing 5-10 over. If you're in the fast lane obstructing by driving too slowly...technically can still be cited. As always it'll be at the discretion of the officer present though.
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Yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly (…using the catch-all violation 22350 CVC). The officer would just need to articulate why driving under the prima facie limit is causing a hazard. A person driving slowly while no other cars are on the road or in really light traffic wouldn't present a hazard.
Haven't read it in a while but as I recall there's also no specific speed limit associated either, so it doesn't matter if you're doing exactly the speed limit if everyone else is doing 5-10 over. If you're in the fast lane obstructing by driving too slowly...technically can still be cited. As always it'll be at the discretion of the officer present though.
Yep! It's all on the officer to articulate why the person is driving too slowly for the conditions. Conversely, you can also be cited for driving too fast for the conditions even if you're driving the posted speed limit.
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Yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly (…using the catch-all violation 22350 CVC). The officer would just need to articulate why driving under the prima facie limit is causing a hazard. A person driving slowly while no other cars are on the road or in really light traffic wouldn't present a hazard.
Haven't read it in a while but as I recall there's also no specific speed limit associated either, so it doesn't matter if you're doing exactly the speed limit if everyone else is doing 5-10 over. If you're in the fast lane obstructing by driving too slowly...technically can still be cited. As always it'll be at the discretion of the officer present though.
Oh that law has saved my ass a few times. I'll send you something in PM that attorneys utilize for said tickets. Applicable to you as I believe you're in CA. Here's a snippet.

The Basic Speed Law, CVC 22350 states: "No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property."

On the date of the citation, the roads were dry and clear with medium traffic.
No persons or property were put at risk by my driving. As such, the Officer does not make a credible case that I was in violation of the Basic Speed Law.

This is usually followed by a bunch of crap about how it's especially a speed trap because certified copy of engineering or speed survey done within certain amount of years (5 I believe) and then a bunch of nonsense about calibration and certifications of equipment used and if police vehicle was used to determine speed then documented certification on dash calibration as well and a lot of other nonsense in lawyer speak.

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Yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly (…using the catch-all violation 22350 CVC). The officer would just need to articulate why driving under the prima facie limit is causing a hazard. A person driving slowly while no other cars are on the road or in really light traffic wouldn't present a hazard.
Haven't read it in a while but as I recall there's also no specific speed limit associated either, so it doesn't matter if you're doing exactly the speed limit if everyone else is doing 5-10 over. If you're in the fast lane obstructing by driving too slowly...technically can still be cited. As always it'll be at the discretion of the officer present though.
Oh that law has saved my ass a few times. I'll send you something in PM that attorneys utilize for said tickets. Applicable to you as I believe you're in CA. Here's a snippet.

The Basic Speed Law, CVC 22350 states: "No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property."

On the date of the citation, the roads were dry and clear with medium traffic.
No persons or property were put at risk by my driving. As such, the Officer does not make a credible case that I was in violation of the Basic Speed Law.

This is usually followed by a bunch of crap about how it's especially a speed trap because certified copy of engineering or speed survey done within certain amount of years (5 I believe) and then a bunch of nonsense about calibration and certifications of equipment used and if police vehicle was used to determine speed then documented certification on dash calibration as well and a lot of other nonsense in lawyer speak.

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22350 CVC is just a speeding catch-all, whereas 22349 CVC, 22348 CVC, etc. are speed specific.

The portion in bold is effectively "speeding" and it can easily be articulated.
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Yep! It's all on the officer to articulate why the person is driving too slowly for the conditions.
C'mon, admit it. Those officers are only pulling over slow cars to sniff the driver's breath, since driving slow/cautious is a sign of a potentially-intoxicated driver. If they didn't give the officer lip or video the whole traffic stop incident to take to the officer's "boss," they probably would have been cut loose with a "have a nice day" if they sniffed clean.

Back in the 1980's during my college job days, the police in our small town used to hang out where I worked at night every weekend on a special grant-funded DWI patrol...watching cars drive through town where there were street lights. Driving with high beams on in a well-lit area was enough probable cause for a stop-and-sniff, and they arrested a few every weekend night.....
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Yep! It's all on the officer to articulate why the person is driving too slowly for the conditions.
C'mon, admit it. Those officers are only pulling over slow cars to sniff the driver's breath, since driving slow/cautious is a sign of a potentially-intoxicated driver. If they didn't give the officer lip or video the whole traffic stop incident to take to the officer's "boss," they probably would have been cut loose with a "have a nice day" if they sniffed clean.

Back in the 1980's during my college job days, the police in our small town used to hang out where I worked at night every weekend on a special grant-funded DWI patrol...watching cars drive through town where there were street lights. Driving with high beams on in a well-lit area was enough probable cause for a stop-and-sniff, and they arrested a few every weekend night.....
Slow drivers aren't always potentially intoxicated. They are often texting while driving, elderly (…and need their licenses revoked/restricted), etc. The reasons vary, but it is an indication of a "problem."

As for the DUI task forces, I'm all for them. So many knuckleheads drive around intoxicated or high….or both. Stalking the clubs is an easy way to catch somebody before they kill someone.
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Slow drivers aren't always potentially intoxicated. They are often texting while driving, elderly (…and need their licenses revoked/restricted), etc. The reasons vary, but it is an indication of a "problem."

As for the DUI task forces, I'm all for them. So many knuckleheads drive around intoxicated or high….or both. Stalking the clubs is an easy way to catch somebody before they kill someone.
an old supervisor of mine used to drive stupid slow on the way to work. 40mph in a 55, accelerating so slow it would take a mile or more to get to highway speed. He finally got stopped by a trooper who asked him why he was driving so slow and his response was" I'm trying to save gas". He was then told he needs to change those driving habits because it causes frustration in other drivers and then they do something dangerous to try and get around you. Best part was, this supervisor once tried to be a trooper but was booted because of personality conflicts.
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From Newport Beach: Motor officers observed a motorcyclist riding down PCH doing a wheelie. Not only was the rider issued a misdemeanor citation for exhibition of speed, but the motorcycle was also impounded. #30DayHold

Really?
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From Newport Beach: Motor officers observed a motorcyclist riding down PCH doing a wheelie. Not only was the rider issued a misdemeanor citation for exhibition of speed, but the motorcycle was also impounded. #30DayHold

Really?
It's no different than doing burnouts at a light. Popping wheelies on public streets is illegal.
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It's no different than doing burnouts at a light. Popping wheelies on public streets is illegal.
I also feel theres a big difference between a wheel coming up at a light and riding one wheel down a highway. Both illegal, but a wheel coming up for a second and then being set back down is not nearly as dangerous as someone riding one wheel down the highway for long distances.

I will admit, watching some of the "stunting" is cool. but I hate seeing on the street. Keep it to the closed lots and shows.
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