[bryce]

Originally Posted by bryce

i am really curious about the oxygen sensor placement. vishnu's manifold has bank 1 and bank 2 sensors placed appropriately. hpf's manifold (from teh pics) is hard to tell. i hope they're not combining the o2 sensor placement into the downpipe. that wouldn't be accurate, as we know bank 1 and bank 2 fuel trims vary

Originally Posted by rader1

meh

not sure if serious

[rader1]

Originally Posted by bryce

not sure if serious

Nope, wasn't serious. That's actually something i pointed out as being a problem a few pages back and noone seemed to think it was a problem.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by rader1

Nope, wasn't serious. That's actually something i pointed out as being a problem a few pages back and noone seemed to think it was a problem.

oh right on


i'm with you; i think it could be a potentially big problem if hpf is combining primary o2 sensors into one pipe

[rader1]

Ohhh wait, here's the dyno sheet:

[bryce]

evans tuning....looks like a honda k20 or f20 dyno to me lol

[ajsalida]

Originally Posted by Akopley

I thought only women were capable of being such cock teases. Post some numbers already!

Ha ha +1.

I suspect now that both HPF and Shiv have seen under each other's skirts a bit, no doubt some intense closed door sessions going on at both shops. I'd be surprised to see solid numbers from either very soon, but hope I'm wrong.

[rader1]

Originally Posted by bryce

evans tuning....looks like a honda k20 or f20 dyno to me lol

I think a few people will recognise this dyno sheet...

[Crazylegs]

Originally Posted by ajsalida

Ha ha +1.

I suspect now that both HPF and Shiv have seen under each other's skirts a bit, no doubt some intense closed door sessions going on at both shops. I'd be surprised to see solid numbers from either very soon, but hope I'm wrong.

and how there both going to price there kits is going to lead to a better market

[Ernerd]

this is getting boriinnngggggg

[MR.Slick1029]

What type of marketing is this?, honestly its like dealing with a 10 year old child thats selling one of the most groundbreaking mods ever for this platform.


I simply cant believe that you could say. " cars on the dyno now " and 24+ hours later dont even respond to our comments.


I wonder if their customer support is the same.

[dhahlen]

Originally Posted by MR.Slick1029

What type of marketing is this?, honestly its like dealing with a 10 year old child thats selling one of the most groundbreaking mods ever for this platform.


I simply cant believe that you could say. " cars on the dyno now " and 24+ hours later dont even respond to our comments.


I wonder if their customer support is the same.

QFT!

Makes me wonder the same!

[JB335]

Chris thinks he's Steve jobs.

[Crazylegs]

maby they havent finished tuning it . It's not like they owe you anything. . Dont see your point at getting mad at them, pretty sure they are doing everything they can to finish this.

[ajsalida]

Originally Posted by MR.Slick1029

What type of marketing is this?, honestly its like dealing with a 10 year old child thats selling one of the most groundbreaking mods ever for this platform.


I simply cant believe that you could say. " cars on the dyno now " and 24+ hours later dont even respond to our comments.


I wonder if their customer support is the same.

Well it could be that they are all huddled in the corner of the dyno room, losing control of their sphincters. Maybe the numbers weren't all that great? Who knows, just have to wait and see. I would speculate they thought they had no competition anywhere close and got very surprised by the Vishnu news, so anything they put out has to be very, very good.

[MR.Slick1029]

Originally Posted by Crazylegs

maby they havent finished tuning it . It's not like they owe you anything. . Dont see your point at getting mad at them, pretty sure they are doing everything they can to finish this.

No they dont owe any of us anything expect wanting to take our $5900 for a turbo kit, You know thats all.

A little insight would be great. Why even post a live feed if you take it down when it gets to what we all want to see.


Bad marketing IMHO and your just upsetting potential customers.


Iam not mad at anybody iam just disappointed with the way its happening, Very unprofessional.

Originally Posted by ajsalida

Well it could be that they are all huddled in the corner of the dyno room, losing control of their sphincters. Maybe the numbers weren't all that great? Who knows, just have to wait and see. I would speculate they thought they had no competition anywhere close and got very surprised by the Vishnu news, so anything they put out has to be very, very good.

Who knows your probably right.


No offense HPF as you guys are the best people to ever put on hands on an M3 and other BMW platforms. But iam just speaking my mind.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by Crazylegs

maby they havent finished tuning it . It's not like they owe you anything. . Dont see your point at getting mad at them, pretty sure they are doing everything they can to finish this.

+1, patience guys. Chris will post dyno results/vids soon enough.

[nailer335]

What they "owe" the community is accuracy in their posts, at the least. At the most, a product that provides gains and reliability worth the price tag. I whole heartedly disagree that a vendor doesn't owe his largest pool of potential customers anything.

[Tiago@VRSF]

Put down the pitchforks guys, I'm sure there was a reasonable explanation

[rader1]

Originally Posted by nailer335

What they "owe" the community is accuracy in their posts, at the least. At the most, a product that provides gains and reliability worth the price tag. I whole heartedly disagree that a vendor doesn't owe his largest pool of potential customers anything.

+1

[TurboBimmer]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Put down the pitchforks guys, I'm sure there was a reasonable explanation

Maybe the results weren't as expected? Let's hope for the best. We don't need another single turbo fail thread...

[Zeph]

I mean, the real purpose of a dyno is for tuning. Just because the car cranks and revs a little doesn't mean it is tuned. They will tune the car and show us the "tuned" dyno not the hours/days of tuning. This isn't an OTS tune on an old and heavily used kit or something.

But yeah.. can't wait to see the graphs!

Zeph

[mithiral67]

In a world full of idiots that spew their mundane life story on the internet (facebook), why do the folks with info we want not give us an update every couple mins.