[Nebster]

btw i just saw the procede for 600 some. damn i missed out on that

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

everyone needs to shut the fuck up. I can barely hang on when it comes to talking about cameras, let alone states. I hate everyone that lives in every state and myself. rage thanks for your service. let's move on with the borophyll and insulting alex and his terrible tune

What tune does Alex have? Which one is Alex?

BTW I don't know shit about cameras either.

[kyleb350]

Alex is the guy with the kick ass wheels. You may know him as Vudoo4U2?

[Vudoo4u2]

PROCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDE

(this is for all you guys out there that would appreciate it)

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

Alex is the guy with the kick ass wheels. You may know him as Vudoo4U2?

From what I gather, he's using the Procede V3, right?

[Vudoo4u2]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

Alex is the guy with the kick ass wheels. You may know him as Vudoo4U2?

yours arent so bad either

wink wink

[Vudoo4u2]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

From what I gather, he's using the Procede V3, right?

yesm

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by Vudoo4u2

yesm

Not sure what's so bad about that.

[CubanJJ09]

yea he is lol damn u proceeeeede. but I really dont think it's any competitin b/w tunes after dinan, procede has the best features and function IMO.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

yea he is lol damn u proceeeeede. but I really dont think it's any competitin b/w tunes after dinan, procede has the best features and function IMO.

Hard to say. 1.3 of JB3 is showing damn good torque curves.

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Not sure what's so bad about that.

because I have dinan and we are sworn enemies until death.......... and beyond

[UdubBadger]

well since I'm getting a custom tune (only the 2nd in the USA and the 1st to actually be dynoed for proof) do I get to name it myself?

Roast Beef maybe?

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

because I have dinan and we are sworn enemies until death.......... and beyond

Well, enemies maybe, but how can you compare the two, really? I mean, you pay $XXXX more for the Dinan and less power for peace of mind.

I was actually looking into the S3 tune, even though it's quite a bit of $$, just for the peace of mind aspect. But, the Procede and JB3 offer more for so much less....

[Nebster]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Well, enemies maybe, but how can you compare the two, really? I mean, you pay $XXXX more for the Dinan and less power for peace of mind.

I was actually looking into the S3 tune, even though it's quite a bit of $$, just for the peace of mind aspect. But, the Procede and JB3 offer more for so much less....

really dude? are you taking everything seriously!?

[Vudoo4u2]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Hard to say. 1.3 of JB3 is showing damn good torque curves.

I cant argue with the jb3 output results

but ill say, they are pumping the output and still have no active timing control. (this has been verified now) it relies on the stock ecu to manage it. Which has been fine so far, and I dont know enough to say the engine is knocking. So for now no problems.

But once you get past comparing the two tunes for their output numbers (which are very close in most cases and for most drivers the results are absolutely a drivers race)...the features and ease of use one offers, are greatly different than the other.

-JB3 you pay for each update "chip" that terry sends to you
-JB3 does not have BT features/code clearing w/o BT tool
-JB3 does not have built in boost guage (now or in the works)

the price difference is now a non-issue, and one tune offers expansion and soon to be ignition adjustment as well, while the other tune has good output currently, but little to no foreseeable future on its current hardware and a questionable safety mechanism.

to me, the doubt of safety (even if it turns out its fine), and the lack of upgrades instantly, is something im not willing to deal with...

but this is my logic, and for this reason I bought the procede, I cant say the jb3 hasnt had impressive dyno #s and runs @ the track...but engine temps and oil temps are logged higher on jb3, and on a car, stress=heat...thats a basic function

to me, that means the jb3 stresses the car more than the procede, and that makes a difference in my book when I consider my purposes as a daily driver (if I was a race driver, I wouldnt care since fixing things here and there is a non issue and just part of the job)

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

well since I'm getting a custom tune (only the 2nd in the USA and the 1st to actually be dynoed for proof) do I get to name it myself?

Roast Beef maybe?

Maybe you could be really gay and name it Bucky.

But no for real, I'm eager to see what you find out. These custom tunes, are these the flashes everyone is talking about on this thread?

[Vudoo4u2]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

because I have dinan and we are sworn enemies until death.......... and beyond

I will make your firstborn cry

[Nebster]

yes

[ultimate]

oh man. just read up one like 20 pages of useless crap. i hate engines.

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

well since I'm getting a custom tune (only the 2nd in the USA and the 1st to actually be dynoed for proof) do I get to name it myself?

Roast Beef maybe?

run that by tony but I'd have to say....... YES!!


roast beef will propell you from 0-60 faster than a hooker taking her clothes off

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Maybe you could be really gay and name it Bucky.

But no for real, I'm eager to see what you find out. These custom tunes, are these the flashes everyone is talking about on this thread?

wow you really have nothing to talk about other than college huh? how old are you again?

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by Vudoo4u2

I cant argue with the jb3 output results

but ill say, they are pumping the output and still have no active timing control. (this has been verified now) it relies on the stock ecu to manage it. Which has been fine so far, and I dont know enough to say the engine is knocking. So for now no problems.

But once you get past comparing the two tunes for their output numbers (which are very close in most cases and for most drivers the results are absolutely a drivers race)...the features and ease of use one offers, are greatly different than the other.

-JB3 you pay for each update "chip" that terry sends to you
-JB3 does not have BT features/code clearing w/o BT tool
-JB3 does not have built in boost guage (now or in the works)

the price difference is now a non-issue, and one tune offers expansion and soon to be ignition adjustment as well, while the other tune has good output currently, but little to no foreseeable future on its current hardware and a questionable safety mechanism.

to me, the doubt of safety (even if it turns out its fine), and the lack of upgrades instantly, is something im not willing to deal with...

but this is my logic, and for this reason I bought the procede, I cant say the jb3 hasnt had impressive dyno #s and runs @ the track...but engine temps and oil temps are logged higher on jb3, and on a car, stress=heat...thats a basic function

to me, that means the jb3 stresses the car more than the procede, and that makes a difference in my book when I consider my purposes as a daily driver (if I was a race driver, I wouldnt care since fixing things here and there is a non issue and just part of the job)

You make good points, and those same points are probably why I'll go Procede (that, and I use and abuse CAN protocol and hardware all day every day at work). Although I don't know what my CAN knowledge would ever do for me, it's nice to be familiar with what it does....