[T Bone]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Thats what BMW says.

So far there isnt enough evidence either way. I'll be interested to see what happens in the next few months.

I've heard things are invisible on the dealer level and are delivered directly to BMW AG thru the fasta(sp) system.

I think the safe bet is to assume CIP 29.2 on MSD80 is the same as 29.2 on MSD81.

Personally with all the reading that I have done, I have not seen anything to suggest MSD81 has any new detect / security things over MSD80.

But then again, I have limited access to BMW documents....some but not all the important ones.

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

100% agree. the engine isn't reliable and bmw uses it as a bs excuse to get out of paying.

Data?

Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

the point i was making was that some people will always try to game the system and no amount of preachy posts is gonna change that.

I try and teach my kids to be able to decide for themselves the difference between right and wrong. It's pretty fuzzy sometimes, but telling the truth is usually straightforward. But so far as I know, my kids are not on this list (gasp).

One small point here is that this list is not going to be a forum for pirating or other illegal actions, for obvious reasons.

[mistermojorizin]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Data?

the fuel pump SIB, the wastegate SIB - i don't have the data, but bmw obviously does.

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

the fuel pump SIB, the wastegate SIB - i don't have the data, but bmw obviously does.

The problems with the HPFP and parts of the turbo are not really the issue that you raised. What you claimed was that BMW was fraudulently trying to get out of warranty claims on those items by blaming failures on mods [without proper engineering failure analysis cause].

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

I have been doing this for YEARS man and was tuning and turbo'ing IS300's when SRT Mo was still tinkering with his failed supercharger kits. I have yet to produce a car that had problems. I don't know what you consider professional, but this is what I do for a living and have the background. I mentioned this to Longtran when I met him, going from one forum to another, the new forum won't know who you are.

BMW is not different than Lexus when it comes to warranty by any means. Modification=warranty GONE! (As long as what you did is the cause) Simple as that. Of the 180+cars that I have completed in these years, the owner and I both understand this and they sign a written agreement understanding this concept. The problem here is people are actively TRYING to avoid BMW from finding out they modified there car. Tell tell signs that most are not willing to accept responsibility for the potential consequences of modifying their cars. That is simply NOT how it works. I bet if people put themselves in BMW's shoes, they wouldn't want to fork over the costs for the repair either.

I mentioned earlier I will figure this out the same way I figured everything out on the IS300. This is just how it works. You gotta pay to play, and the price to play in this case is obvious.

Who built your IS300? Just wondering...

I am confused then, you post earlier says who cares if you modify a leased car. How in the world can you return a modified car when the lease is over... or do you always buy it?

You and I both know the IS300 ecu was difficult, but did nothing to store codes that only your dealer could see. It had no codes that could not be cleared. If you are trying to sell things to this crowd, you better not be selling them something that will send the dealer a code saying "I modified my car so go ahead and void my warranty". If that is your direction, then you will be selling very few products. You can read through the forum and come to the same conclusion if you want.

Trust me, Mo would never touch my car Malek. My car was built from one of the extremely trusted 2JZ tuners.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Malek, I know you had some sick cars, so I don't doubt you will make this car wild too. With that said, BMW will throw you under the bus if you go full force on this car like you did on your IS300. I can tell you from experience Lexus is a different company the BMW. Lexus thought it was cool to mod your car, however BMW is a totally different company. They will do everything in their power to deny you a warranty claim. You are playing with fire if you are trying to be the one to crack the DME81. One bad code and you are done. Let the pro's do that and then learn from them.

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I am confused then, you post earlier says who cares if you modify a leased car. How in the world can you return a modified car when the lease is over... or do you always buy it?

You and I both know the IS300 ecu was cake. It had not codes that could not be cleared. If you are trying to sell things to this crowd, you better not be selling them something that will send the dealer a code saying "I modified my car so go ahead and void my warranty". If that is your direction, then you will be selling very few products. You can read through the forum and come to the same conclusion if you want.

Trust me, Mo would never touch my car Malek. My car was built from one of the extremely trusted 2JZ tuners.

In addition I'd like to say that nobody here will appreciate a "sick" tune, like some tuners try to achieve. Extract serious and reliable power from the engines, that's what usual BMW owners want and pay for.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by e.n335

In addition I'd like to say that nobody here will appreciate a "sick" tune, like some tuners try to achieve. Extract serious and reliable power from the engines, that's what usual BMW owners want and pay for.

I think you underestimate this crowd eugene. People wouldn't be buying PROcede and Attache if they were after the most power.

What you must understand is me and Malek come from a 2JZ with large single turbos. We are not talking about 400 rwhp, but 500+ rwhp. I ran well over 400 rwhp daily for nearly 5 years... if that is not reliable then I don't know what is.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I think you underestimate this crowd eugene. People wouldn't be buying PROcede and Attache if they were after the most power.

What you must understand is me and Malek come from a 2JZ with large single turbos. We are not talking about 400 rwhp, but 500+ rwhp. I ran well over 400 rwhp daily for nearly 5 years... if that is not reliable then I don't know what is.

People "were" buying piggys because there were no other options. Times have changed.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

People "were" buying piggys because there were no other options. Times have changed.

Piggy or not, my statement is just that the selling point of Attache and PROcede is that they make the most power. It speaks volumes about what our community wants.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Piggy or not, my statement is just that the selling point of Attache and PROcede is that they make the most power. It speaks volumes about what our community wants.

I agree, usable power is and will continue to be on the top of this community's priority list.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Piggy or not, my statement is just that the selling point of Attache and PROcede is that they make the most power. It speaks volumes about what our community wants.

I don't agree and I guess you will not understand why quite a lot buy the Dinan ECU-flash or the new AA Active Processor.

So there will be different kind of SE/SI tunes, from tuners coming from the Suby / EVO / etc. world used to squeeze out the last hp from the engine and others having a reputable BMW tuning experience / history. Guess which tune I will buy ?

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by e.n335

I don't agree and I guess you will not understand why quite a lot buy the Dinan ECU-flash or the new AA Active Processor.

So there will be different kind of SE/SI tunes, from tuners coming from the Suby / EVO / etc. world used to squeeze out the last hp from the engine and others having a reputable BMW tuning experience / history. Guess which tune I will buy ?

Eugene, I know what you will buy and you have clearly stated your opinions. Look, I come from a car once that threw limps all over the place and that was not acceptable. I do understand why people buy Dinan or AA. Basically the Dinan guys are not coming over to any flash or piggy because they are paying for one thing... a warranty. I think the dinan guys realize what they are buying. The AA guys are likely buying safety as you state.

The fact is there is a huge interest in producing the highest power. The beauty of a the shark-edit appears to be that there will be maps for people who are looking for lower boost setups and those who are looking for higher boost setups. Either way, both groups are interested in the prospect.

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

What you must understand is me and Malek come from a 2JZ with large single turbos. We are not talking about 400 rwhp, but 500+ rwhp. I ran well over 400 rwhp daily for nearly 5 years... if that is not reliable then I don't know what is.

And the 2JZ was a damn near bulletproof platform.

The N54 is not.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

And the 2JZ was a damn near bulletproof platform.

The N54 is not.

I think you guys are missing my point. My statement is simple, there is a huge group who want the most power possible. Many came to the 335i because it was a turbo engine out of the box and knew modding it to produce big power would be easy. The reality has lived up to expections for most of us.

Again, all I am is saying is a huge population of the 335i owners are looking for power numbers.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I think you guys are missing my point. My statement is simple, there is a huge group who want the most power possible. Many came to the 335i because it was a turbo engine out of the box and knew modding it to produce big power would be easy. The reality has lived up to expections for most of us.

Again, all I am is saying is a huge population of the 335i owners are looking for power numbers.

I would never sell or market a product that would still throw hidden codes. That would merely defeat the purpose. I for one have always been able to get around any troubles and ECU throws at me and was able to succeed in keeping everything in the car happy and retaining EVERY single factory option. In my personal car, I even went as far as modifying the traction control (TRAC) to work with boost without dropping the car on its face when wheelspin was detected.

Modifying a leased car is not a big deal. My IS300 was a lease, I bought it out, or if I felt like it, I could have put it back to stock and returned it back. NOT modifying a car because it's a lease is an excuse to me. If convenience is an issue to those leasing, just don't go too overboard, simple as that.

I am waiting for my dealer to call me and let me know when the BMW pins I ordered will be in. Once they are, I will start the testing process.

And on another note, I am still waiting for a reply from Mr. Conforti. I know he is swamped with email's, so I am being patient.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

I am waiting for my dealer to call me and let me know when the BMW pins I ordered will be in. Once they are, I will start the testing process.

And on another note, I am still waiting for a reply from Mr. Conforti. I know he is swamped with email's, so I am being patient.

Do you have the V81 DME or the 80?

Conforti is swamped - to give you a timeline, it took him exactly 1 week to get back to my email.

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I think you guys are missing my point. My statement is simple, there is a huge group who want the most power possible. Many came to the 335i because it was a turbo engine out of the box and knew modding it to produce big power would be easy. The reality has lived up to expections for most of us.

Again, all I am is saying is a huge population of the 335i owners are looking for power numbers.

Yeah, but you arent going to get 2JZ numbers out of the N54... at least not right now. There are too many obstacles to get around, and 29.2 and MSD81 are just 2 of them. You still have the limitations of the fuel system and other things.

To put it simply, this is no Toyota.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Yeah, but you arent going to get 2JZ numbers out of the N54... at least not right now. There are too many obstacles to get around, and 29.2 and MSD81 are just 2 of them. You still have the limitations of the fuel system and other things.

To put it simply, this is no Toyota.

Expecting Supra 2JZ-GTE numbers out of the N54 is foolish at this point as you have mentioned.

[Calgary Agent]

Originally Posted by slubu

Conforti is swamped - to give you a timeline, it took him exactly 1 week to get back to my email.

Let's all let Jim Conforti do what he does best (tune). I'm sure this is one of the reasons he doesn't frequent online forums - they're almost like knitting circles

[oc24]

What DME does the new M3 have? Anyone know?

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by slubu

What DME does the new M3 have? Anyone know?

I believe it is the Bosch MS_S65 (same as the V10)...or a derivative.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by T Bone

I believe it is the Bosch MS_S65 (same as the V10)...or a derivative.

Ok thanks.